UG Socialist Party

What form of Socialist are you and which country a

bassboy 999	I'm a National Socialist living in Australia. It'll happen one day.	I'm a National Socialist living in Australia. It'll happen one day.
	Posted: May 25, 2008 2:31 AM - Quote - Report!
stevve	Canada, Communist	Canada, Communist
	Posted: May 25, 2008 6:26 AM - Quote - Report!
imthehitcher	allow national socialists my socialism is relevant to circumstance i live in Britain and i think social democracy would work for the UK whereas many parts of the world require extreme revolutionary socialism to implement change but overall since i believe that Communism is the ultimate goal i will say im a communist	allow national socialists my socialism is relevant to circumstance i live in Britain and i think social democracy would work for the UK whereas many parts of the world require extreme revolutionary socialism to implement change but overall since i believe that Communism is the ultimate goal i will say im a communist ;)
	Posted: May 25, 2008 1:41 PM - Quote - Report!
KenMasters	I am na Anarcho-Socialist... I believe that the idea of socialism is a "needed bad thing" in order to achieve the classless society, communism and Anarchy... I"m Greek... Oh, Britain would be a good candidate for a socialistic revolution but it is very unlikely to happen because , though there's a greeat mass of proletarians, there is no such thing as Luben Proletariat, which is the main revolution starter...	I am na Anarcho-Socialist... I believe that the idea of socialism is a "needed bad thing" in order to achieve the classless society, communism and Anarchy... I"m Greek... Oh, Britain would be a good candidate for a socialistic revolution but it is very unlikely to happen because , though there's a greeat mass of proletarians, there is no such thing as Luben Proletariat, which is the main revolution starter...
	Posted: May 25, 2008 3:33 PM - Quote - Report!
Bubban	U.S., Marxist-Leninist. bassboy 999, would you care to explain your being a national socialist? I seriously hope I'm misunderstanding something here, and that you aren't talking nazis or something alone those lines, and are instead referring to something completely different.	U.S., Marxist-Leninist. bassboy 999, would you care to explain your being a national socialist? I seriously hope I'm misunderstanding something here, and that you aren't talking nazis or something alone those lines, and are instead referring to something completely different.
	Posted: May 25, 2008 11:55 PM - Quote - Report!
bassboy 999	I'm no Nazi. Nazis are a bunch of lunatics with an increasing radiclaist policy sprilaing into chaos. I am not racist. I just like nationalism and socialism. National Socialism.	I'm no Nazi. Nazis are a bunch of lunatics with an increasing radiclaist policy sprilaing into chaos. I am not racist. I just like nationalism and socialism. National Socialism.
	Posted: May 26, 2008 5:38 AM - Quote - Report!
Bubban	Can you elaborate further? The way I've understood it, the ideas of Socialism and Nationalism conflict with each other. As a Marxist, I believe that workers of all countries should unite, national boundaries being irrelevant. We do not choose to be born were we are. Why be proud of accomplishments of your nation that you had no part in? Nationalism can only divide potential comrades who could work together in a common struggle. Nationalism in my eyes can only serve the ruling class. Anyways, I apologize if I came off as a bit hostile before, I am now merely baffled.	Can you elaborate further? The way I've understood it, the ideas of Socialism and Nationalism conflict with each other. As a Marxist, I believe that workers of all countries should unite, national boundaries being irrelevant. We do not choose to be born were we are. Why be proud of accomplishments of your nation that you had no part in? Nationalism can only divide potential comrades who could work together in a common struggle. Nationalism in my eyes can only serve the ruling class. Anyways, I apologize if I came off as a bit hostile before, I am now merely baffled.
	Posted: May 26, 2008 6:03 AM - Quote - Report!
bassboy 999	no no, youre right. Theres no emphasis on the socialism part. Socialism is just an ideological tool used to emphasise the national communtiy (now i sound nazi). I don't mean at all to redistribute the wealth. I guess in short, I'm not a real socialist.	no no, youre right. Theres no emphasis on the socialism part. Socialism is just an ideological tool used to emphasise the national communtiy (now i sound nazi). I don't mean at all to redistribute the wealth. I guess in short, I'm not a real socialist.
	Posted: May 26, 2008 8:11 AM - Quote - Report!
KenMasters	Nationalism and Socialism don't cope... Socialism means INTERnationalism...	Nationalism and Socialism don't cope... Socialism means INTERnationalism...
	Posted: May 26, 2008 11:49 AM - Quote - Report!
bassboy 999	Not necessarily. It depends on specifics, for example, Communism has the idea of the international union of all workers and complete socialism that would be inevitable blah blah. I guess in short, I'm NOT a real socialist. Stage a takeover if you don't like me ahaha.	Not necessarily. It depends on specifics, for example, Communism has the idea of the international union of all workers and complete socialism that would be inevitable blah blah. I guess in short, I'm NOT a real socialist. Stage a takeover if you don't like me ahaha.
	Posted: May 26, 2008 12:18 PM - Quote - Report!
KenMasters	who said it is not in the plans already....	who said it is not in the plans already....
	Posted: May 26, 2008 3:26 PM - Quote - Report!
stevve	So your not a real socialist but your head of the socialist party?	So your not a real socialist but your head of the socialist party?
	Posted: May 27, 2008 3:38 AM - Quote - Report!
bassboy 999	Correct. I don't follow the true socialist ideology, but it is a small part of what I do like.	Correct. I don't follow the true socialist ideology, but it is a small part of what I do like.
	Posted: May 27, 2008 6:21 AM - Quote - Report!
UnresolvdMurder	Democratic socialist living in france, but moving back to england in september	Democratic socialist living in france, but moving back to england in september
	Posted: May 28, 2008 12:40 AM - Quote - Report!
NuEmoMetalPunk	Eco-Socialist Im from the USA. Americunts ftw.	Eco-Socialist Im from the USA. Americunts ftw.
	Posted: Jun 7, 2008 3:53 AM - Quote - Report!
Trickycindy	bassboy 999 wrote on May 27th, 2008 at 1:21am : Correct. I don't follow the true socialist ideology, but it is a small part of what I do like. If you don't believe in redistribution of wealth, then you can't claim to be a socialist of any shade. You are in fact merely a fascist masquerading in leftist colours. I propose a motion that this reactionary be censured. Also, Communist (Trotskyist) UK	[QUOTE u='bassboy 999' d='2008-05-27 01:21:45']Correct. I don't follow the true socialist ideology, but it is a small part of what I do like.[/QUOTE] If you don't believe in redistribution of wealth, then you can't claim to be a socialist of any shade. You are in fact merely a fascist masquerading in leftist colours. I propose a motion that this reactionary be censured. Also, Communist (Trotskyist) UK
	Posted: Jun 8, 2008 2:59 PM - Quote - Report!
NuEmoMetalPunk	Aren't Anarcho-Socialist and Libertarian Socialist the same thing?	Aren't Anarcho-Socialist and Libertarian Socialist the same thing?
	Posted: Jun 25, 2008 12:10 AM - Quote - Report!
eckmann88	Democratic Socialist, USA	Democratic Socialist, USA
	Posted: Oct 26, 2008 6:24 AM - Quote - Report!
Nicky Tuna	Democratic and/or anarcho socialist, Norway.	Democratic and/or anarcho socialist, Norway.
	Posted: Oct 27, 2008 7:51 AM - Quote - Report!
ECwomantoneman	I R NSDAP Just kidding I'm from Scotland; not sure of which kind of Socialism I'd call my beliefs, I guess kinda "Robin Hood" style - higher taxes on the wealthy, lower taxes on the working man/woman, nationalised big business and overall better distribution of wealth. To me, living in a Britain which has been turned upside down by the idiocy of managing directors behind closed doors in banks, people that are handling our money and have as much influence in our lives as the government, nationalisation of banks and oil etc is very important. We chose our government but we had no say in who the banks chose. With nationalisation we'd have a fairer say in such matters. I know that's a simplified view of it but why complicate things even more? TL;DR? Democratic Socialist perhaps? I believe that the government should be the representatives of the people and to be chosen by them, rather than ruling them and limiting civil and political freedom. After all, isn't that one of the core concepts of Socialism? It's just a shame that Stalin and others of his ilk latched onto the word and dragged it through the mud in their lunatic dictator style	I R NSDAP Just kidding :p I'm from Scotland; not sure of which kind of Socialism I'd call my beliefs, I guess kinda "Robin Hood" style - higher taxes on the wealthy, lower taxes on the working man/woman, nationalised big business and overall better distribution of wealth. To me, living in a Britain which has been turned upside down by the idiocy of managing directors behind closed doors in banks, people that are handling our money and have as much influence in our lives as the government, nationalisation of banks and oil etc is very important. We chose our government but we had no say in who the banks chose. With nationalisation we'd have a fairer say in such matters. I know that's a simplified view of it but why complicate things even more? :) TL;DR? Democratic Socialist perhaps? I believe that the government should be the representatives of the people and to be chosen by them, rather than ruling them and limiting civil and political freedom. After all, isn't that one of the core concepts of Socialism? It's just a shame that Stalin and others of his ilk latched onto the word and dragged it through the mud in their lunatic dictator style
	Posted: Nov 2, 2008 6:07 PM - Quote - Report!
planetogo	I'm a Libertarian from Northern Ireland. I realise the term, "Libertarian," can be contentious, so I will define my political beliefs as: The purpose of Government is to legislate and enforce legislation that seeks to maximise the personal freedom of its citizens, which also requires the minimisation of conflict between citizens. True freedom does not, and cannot exist, as all actions have consequences and therefore Government is a necessity and is formed by a general consensus to sacrifice the right to perform such actions that would limit the free will of others.	I'm a Libertarian from Northern Ireland. I realise the term, "Libertarian," can be contentious, so I will define my political beliefs as: The purpose of Government is to legislate and enforce legislation that seeks to maximise the personal freedom of its citizens, which also requires the minimisation of conflict between citizens. True freedom does not, and cannot exist, as all actions have consequences and therefore Government is a necessity and is formed by a general consensus to sacrifice the right to perform such actions that would limit the free will of others.
	Posted: Jan 26, 2009 10:51 PM - Quote - Report!
gopherthegreat	That doesn't disprove anything about socialism, that disproves individualist anarchism. Even Anarcho-socialists (I hate that word, because anarcho-capitalists aren't anarchists) are opposed to actions that infringe on others freedoms.	That doesn't disprove anything about socialism, that disproves individualist anarchism. Even Anarcho-socialists (I hate that word, because anarcho-capitalists aren't anarchists) are opposed to actions that infringe on others freedoms.
	Posted: Jan 29, 2009 2:00 AM - Quote - Report!
Neo Evil11	communism, netherlands. But I believe that communism will not work with the people that are around today. We are too greedy etc. + in billions of people there are a lot of rotten appels who would spoil it for the rest. I would like the world to be one society, one goal. Capitalism cannot sustain. It depends on inequality and profit. Profit means that it is bad for the environment (protecting the environment will mean extra costs) and it is bad for it's workers (salaries will be as low as possible)... so it will end in a revolution or mankind will die.	communism, netherlands. But I believe that communism will not work with the people that are around today. We are too greedy etc. + in billions of people there are a lot of rotten appels who would spoil it for the rest. I would like the world to be one society, one goal. Capitalism cannot sustain. It depends on inequality and profit. Profit means that it is bad for the environment (protecting the environment will mean extra costs) and it is bad for it's workers (salaries will be as low as possible)... so it will end in a revolution or mankind will die.
	Posted: Feb 12, 2009 3:02 PM - Quote - Report!
HandsomeNath	"Trotskyite" Although i just prefer to look at myself as being a Marxist or Revolutionary. What is up with this guy, he claims to be a socialist and a Nationalist, yet he does not support a redistribution of wealth... That is not remotely Socialistic. He sounds more like a crypto-fascist to me.	"Trotskyite" Although i just prefer to look at myself as being a Marxist or Revolutionary. What is up with this guy, he claims to be a socialist and a Nationalist, yet he does not support a redistribution of wealth... That is not remotely Socialistic. He sounds more like a crypto-fascist to me.
	Posted: Feb 26, 2009 2:37 PM - Quote - Report!
Simsimius	ECwomantoneman wrote on Nov 2nd, 2008 at 1:07pm : I R NSDAP Just kidding I'm from Scotland; not sure of which kind of Socialism I'd call my beliefs, I guess kinda "Robin Hood" style - higher taxes on the wealthy, lower taxes on the working man/woman, nationalised big business and overall better distribution of wealth. To me, living in a Britain which has been turned upside down by the idiocy of managing directors behind closed doors in banks, people that are handling our money and have as much influence in our lives as the government, nationalisation of banks and oil etc is very important. We chose our government but we had no say in who the banks chose. With nationalisation we'd have a fairer say in such matters. I know that's a simplified view of it but why complicate things even more? TL;DR? Democratic Socialist perhaps? I believe that the government should be the representatives of the people and to be chosen by them, rather than ruling them and limiting civil and political freedom. After all, isn't that one of the core concepts of Socialism? It's just a shame that Stalin and others of his ilk latched onto the word and dragged it through the mud in their lunatic dictator style I'm similar. Basically, I want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_each_according_to_ his_contribution . I want people to have more democratic control over their workplace - no people at the top, just workers, and for ordinary people to have more control, more say over what the government does. Think like the UK now, but with all companies owned by the workers, who also vote for what policies they want the government to enact/follow. If that makes sense. What does that make me?	ECwomantoneman wrote on Nov 2nd, 2008 at 1:07pm : I R NSDAP Just kidding I'm from Scotland; not sure of which kind of Socialism I'd call my beliefs, I guess kinda "Robin Hood" style - higher taxes on the wealthy, lower taxes on the working man/woman, nationalised big business and overall better distribution of wealth. To me, living in a Britain which has been turned upside down by the idiocy of managing directors behind closed doors in banks, people that are handling our money and have as much influence in our lives as the government, nationalisation of banks and oil etc is very important. We chose our government but we had no say in who the banks chose. With nationalisation we'd have a fairer say in such matters. I know that's a simplified view of it but why complicate things even more? TL;DR? Democratic Socialist perhaps? I believe that the government should be the representatives of the people and to be chosen by them, rather than ruling them and limiting civil and political freedom. After all, isn't that one of the core concepts of Socialism? It's just a shame that Stalin and others of his ilk latched onto the word and dragged it through the mud in their lunatic dictator style I'm similar. Basically, I want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_each_according_to_ his_contribution . I want people to have more democratic control over their workplace - no people at the top, just workers, and for ordinary people to have more control, more say over what the government does. Think like the UK now, but with all companies owned by the workers, who also vote for what policies they want the government to enact/follow. If that makes sense. What does that make me?
	Posted: Jul 23, 2009 9:48 PM - Quote - Report!
ConeShred	Nonsectarian Libertarian Socialism, living in the USA. I would like to move to some Scandinavian country sometime, however.	Nonsectarian Libertarian Socialism, living in the USA. I would like to move to some Scandinavian country sometime, however.
	Posted: Jul 24, 2009 3:33 AM - Quote - Report!
aaciseric	Democratic Socialist, UK. I agree with the principles of voting for people to represent you, but being from a distinct working class background i've seen plenty of people that get fucked over by this 'Center-left' BS. It irratates me incredibly that the British Labour Party have betrayed the working classes in the way that they have, in the 40's they did as much as possible to help, and did fantastic work, now it doesn't seem like they give a fuck, and I'd much rather another socialist party would come along, who know what they're doing.   /\ Simsimius seems to have some good ideas.	Democratic Socialist, UK. I agree with the principles of voting for people to represent you, but being from a distinct working class background i've seen plenty of people that get fucked over by this 'Center-left' BS. It irratates me incredibly that the British Labour Party have betrayed the working classes in the way that they have, in the 40's they did as much as possible to help, and did fantastic work, now it doesn't seem like they give a fuck, and I'd much rather another socialist party would come along, who know what they're doing.   /\ Simsimius seems to have some good ideas.
	Posted: Aug 10, 2009 11:56 AM - Quote - Report!
Simsimius	^I think the UK is great place to introduce some form of socialism, and one of the places where it's greatly possible for some form of socialism to be voted in and implemented. Better then most other countries.	^I think the UK is great place to introduce some form of socialism, and one of the places where it's greatly possible for some form of socialism to be voted in and implemented. Better then most other countries.
	Posted: Aug 10, 2009 12:32 PM - Quote - Report!
6942692	anarcho-communist in US	anarcho-communist in US
	Posted: Aug 14, 2009 2:42 AM - Quote - Report!
Nietsche	What 6942692 said. C'ept I'm UK based	What 6942692 said. C'ept I'm UK based
	Posted: Aug 14, 2009 2:45 PM - Quote - Report!
6942692	Nietsche wrote on Aug 14th, 2009 at 9:45am : What 6942692 said. C'ept I'm UK based Anarchy in the U.K.	Nietsche wrote on Aug 14th, 2009 at 9:45am : What 6942692 said. C'ept I'm UK based Anarchy in the U.K.
	Posted: Aug 14, 2009 6:22 PM - Quote - Report!
ExtremeMetalFTW	Communist via democratic socialism, USA	Communist via democratic socialism, USA
	Posted: Aug 14, 2009 8:30 PM - Quote - Report!
Nietsche	6942692 wrote on Aug 14th, 2009 at 1:22pm : Anarchy in the U.K. Hell yeah! (C'ept Crass>>>>>>>>Sex Pistols)	6942692 wrote on Aug 14th, 2009 at 1:22pm : Anarchy in the U.K. Hell yeah! (C'ept Crass>>>>>>>>Sex Pistols)
	Posted: Aug 15, 2009 12:57 PM - Quote - Report!
Edgecrsuher	Commnist from Portugal.	Commnist from Portugal.
	Posted: Aug 17, 2009 2:01 PM - Quote - Report!
maXterbat0r	Canadian, Democratic Socialist	Canadian, Democratic Socialist
	Posted: Sep 8, 2009 8:01 PM - Quote - Report!
boyleastlikely	from the good ol US of A. Not sure what I'd identify myself as these days. Perhaps Marxist?	from the good ol US of A. Not sure what I'd identify myself as these days. Perhaps Marxist?
	Posted: Nov 24, 2009 3:25 AM - Quote - Report!
NiflHeim	I'm a Marx-Nietzsche-Freud"-ish" socialist and atheist, I live in Catalonia (Spain). I say that I live there because Catalonia was (and is and will be too) the "Anti-Franco" state here. We're an opressed nation (I'm not nationalist). If you search Catalonia on wikipedia maybe you will find something interesting. The other states are full of fascist (ignorant, as it is an synonym) people.	I'm a Marx-Nietzsche-Freud"-ish" socialist and atheist, I live in Catalonia (Spain). I say that I live there because Catalonia was (and is and will be too) the "Anti-Franco" state here. We're an opressed nation (I'm not nationalist). If you search Catalonia on wikipedia maybe you will find something interesting. The other states are full of fascist (ignorant, as it is an synonym) people.
	Posted: Nov 25, 2009 9:38 PM - Quote - Report!
WaitWhat?	Democratic Socialist, UK	Democratic Socialist, UK
	Posted: Nov 27, 2009 9:21 PM - Quote - Report!
k1ng_pooh	Democratic Socialist, Canada.	Democratic Socialist, Canada.
	Posted: Dec 6, 2009 10:07 PM - Quote - Report!