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postmortem2006

Since the last thread was starting to get waaaaaaaaaay too long.

Vindicator are awesome. Buy our shit.
Since the last thread was starting to get waaaaaaaaaay too long.

Vindicator are awesome. Buy our shit.
Posted: Oct 6, 2011 11:40 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

I already did!

Completely spaced the photo though. I'll get on that.
I already did! Completely spaced the photo though. I'll get on that.
Posted: Oct 6, 2011 2:28 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

Same, but I still haven't got my shirt yet :mad: Same, but I still haven't got my shirt yet :mad:
Posted: Oct 6, 2011 9:47 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Verm reshipped the shirts recently. Verm reshipped the shirts recently.
Posted: Oct 7, 2011 11:34 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Where is that rat bastard anyways? Where is that rat bastard anyways?
Posted: Oct 7, 2011 10:08 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

In my anus. Plotting. Scheming. Creating. In my anus. Plotting. Scheming. Creating.
Posted: Oct 8, 2011 1:13 AM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 7th, 2011 at 8:13pm :
In my anus. Plotting. Scheming. Creating.

Seems to me that that would be rather painful.
Also
postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 7th, 2011 at 6:34am :
Verm reshipped the shirts recently.

Nice.
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-07 20:13:45']In my anus. Plotting. Scheming. Creating.[/QUOTE] Seems to me that that would be rather painful. Also [QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-07 06:34:34']Verm reshipped the shirts recently.[/QUOTE] Nice.
Posted: Oct 8, 2011 4:11 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Well I've had to call off my rehearsal attendance today due to not being paid. Still, next show will be amazing. Well I've had to call off my rehearsal attendance today due to not being paid. Still, next show will be amazing.
Posted: Oct 8, 2011 6:39 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Band practice was pretty damn killer. Hopefully the show on the 15th will be as well. Band practice was pretty damn killer. Hopefully the show on the 15th will be as well.
Posted: Oct 9, 2011 5:53 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Have a Vindicator demo you horrible bunch of cunts.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W2OJXDX1
Have a Vindicator demo you horrible bunch of cunts. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W2OJXDX1
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 2:22 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

That was pretty damn tasty! Very prominent black metal influence on that. Got a bit of a Bathory vibe at some places. Bass good and high in the mix. Lovely!

Who's doing backing vocals?
That was pretty damn tasty! Very prominent black metal influence on that. Got a bit of a Bathory vibe at some places. Bass good and high in the mix. Lovely! Who's doing backing vocals?
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 1:53 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Yours truely. Yours truely.
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 5:24 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Nice, good stuff gentlemen. Cool little ominous lead part there, too. Nice, good stuff gentlemen. Cool little ominous lead part there, too.
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 5:32 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

EVen Mr Ingram was impressed, which shocked the fuck out of us EVen Mr Ingram was impressed, which shocked the fuck out of us
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 6:01 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Sanitarium91 wrote on Oct 7th, 2011 at 5:08pm :
Where is that rat bastard anyways?

TL;DR: Drugs and alcohol. I actually forgot about the internet.
Senor Kristian wrote on Oct 10th, 2011 at 8:53am :
Very prominent black metal influence on that. Got a bit of a Bathory vibe at some places.

You should probably expect that on a lot of Vindicator's material in future. That kind of sound is something that I think has come to suit us very well. That proto-black European kind of sound is what I think of as really true metal, so it's going to come through in what I write.
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2011-10-07 17:08:41']Where is that rat bastard anyways?[/QUOTE] TL;DR: Drugs and alcohol. I actually forgot about the internet. [QUOTE u='Senor Kristian' d='2011-10-10 08:53:14'] Very prominent black metal influence on that. Got a bit of a Bathory vibe at some places. [/QUOTE] You should probably expect that on a lot of Vindicator's material in future. That kind of sound is something that I think has come to suit us very well. That proto-black European kind of sound is what I think of as really true metal, so it's going to come through in what I write.
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 10:02 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

New Wave of British Blackened Melodic Death Thrash Metal is too long of a tag for us, so we just call it black thrash. New Wave of British Blackened Melodic Death Thrash Metal is too long of a tag for us, so we just call it black thrash.
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 10:12 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Occult Thrash is our official monicker, I do believe. Occult Thrash is our official monicker, I do believe.
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 10:21 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Okkvlt haha Okkvlt haha
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 11:17 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Vermintide wrote on Oct 10th, 2011 at 5:02pm :

You should probably expect that on a lot of Vindicator's material in future. That kind of sound is something that I think has come to suit us very well. That proto-black European kind of sound is what I think of as really true metal, so it's going to come through in what I write.

Sounds delicious! Filth all around.
[QUOTE u='Vermintide' d='2011-10-10 17:02:31'] You should probably expect that on a lot of Vindicator's material in future. That kind of sound is something that I think has come to suit us very well. That proto-black European kind of sound is what I think of as really true metal, so it's going to come through in what I write.[/QUOTE] Sounds delicious! Filth all around.
Posted: Oct 11, 2011 8:57 AM - Quote - Report!

Atomic_Assault

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 9th, 2011 at 9:22pm :
Have a Vindicator demo you horrible bunch of cunts. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W2OJXDX1


Did you take the link down? It's more fucked than your sphincter after a night with Verm.
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-09 21:22:28']Have a Vindicator demo you horrible bunch of cunts. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W2OJXDX1[/QUOTE] Did you take the link down? It's more fucked than your sphincter after a night with Verm.
Posted: Oct 11, 2011 1:35 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Didn't work for me either the first couple tries. Try again after a while. It oughta work eventually. Didn't work for me either the first couple tries. Try again after a while. It oughta work eventually.
Posted: Oct 11, 2011 7:52 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Indeed, it's just busy with all our thousands of slavering fans furiously hitting the F5 button until they can download it. Indeed, it's just busy with all our thousands of slavering fans furiously hitting the F5 button until they can download it.
Posted: Oct 11, 2011 7:56 PM - Quote - Report!

Atomic_Assault

Cheers mate, it worked. Never had that problem before. Cheers mate, it worked. Never had that problem before.
Posted: Oct 11, 2011 8:00 PM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

Still isn't working for me, I'll try it again later. Looking forward to it though. Still isn't working for me, I'll try it again later. Looking forward to it though.
Posted: Oct 11, 2011 8:03 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

I'm slinging it up on youtube in a bit, so worry not young Manchestrian. I'm slinging it up on youtube in a bit, so worry not young Manchestrian.
Posted: Oct 11, 2011 8:05 PM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

Just downloaded it now and it's really fucking good, especially that melodic midsection. Just downloaded it now and it's really fucking good, especially that melodic midsection.
Posted: Oct 13, 2011 8:05 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Getting that bass sorted was a pain in the ass though. LINE IN, Y U NO RECORD DISTORTION Getting that bass sorted was a pain in the ass though. LINE IN, Y U NO RECORD DISTORTION
Posted: Oct 13, 2011 10:37 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Record your bass with line in, and you're gonna have a bad tiiiime. Record your bass with line in, and you're gonna have a bad tiiiime.
Posted: Oct 14, 2011 7:46 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

:haha: Precisely :haha: Precisely
Posted: Oct 15, 2011 1:44 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Also, I've been treated to a preview of MBR 19.6... yeah, they ripped into us like hell haha. Also, I've been treated to a preview of MBR 19.6... yeah, they ripped into us like hell haha.
Posted: Oct 15, 2011 5:41 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Also wik, rehearsal was amazing. Big surprise for those (un)lucky wankers who see us live. Also wik, rehearsal was amazing. Big surprise for those (un)lucky wankers who see us live.
Posted: Oct 15, 2011 11:12 PM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 15th, 2011 at 6:12pm :
Big surprise for those (un)lucky wankers who see us live.

Zombie Ritual?
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-15 18:12:26']Big surprise for those (un)lucky wankers who see us live.[/QUOTE] Zombie Ritual?
Posted: Oct 16, 2011 3:08 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

MC Lukesta wrote on Oct 16th, 2011 at 10:08am :
postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 15th, 2011 at 6:12pm :
Big surprise for those (un)lucky wankers who see us live.
Zombie Ritual?

We always play that.
[QUOTE u='MC Lukesta' d='2011-10-16 10:08:12'][QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-15 18:12:26']Big surprise for those (un)lucky wankers who see us live.[/QUOTE] Zombie Ritual?[/QUOTE] We always play that.
Posted: Oct 16, 2011 3:28 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Zombie Ritual is pretty much expected of us these days. Zombie Ritual is pretty much expected of us these days.
Posted: Oct 16, 2011 6:14 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

You bitches best be doing it justice. :mad:

In other news, our first gig went alright. Not a lot of people or anything, but we did get some footage, which may be uploaded sometime soon.
You bitches best be doing it justice. :mad: In other news, our first gig went alright. Not a lot of people or anything, but we did get some footage, which may be uploaded sometime soon.
Posted: Oct 16, 2011 9:19 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Of course we are! Congrats on your first show mate.

Somebody has already uploaded the Nightbringer demo to Youtube... they actually beat us to it haha. Also, they dubbed me as Mr. benediction. Which is both rubbish and really fucking funny, so I refuse to correct him.
Of course we are! Congrats on your first show mate. Somebody has already uploaded the Nightbringer demo to Youtube... they actually beat us to it haha. Also, they dubbed me as Mr. benediction. Which is both rubbish and really fucking funny, so I refuse to correct him.
Posted: Oct 16, 2011 11:46 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

"Dear conservationist666

My name is Dave Ingram. I'm the ex-vocalist from Benediction & Bolt Thrower.

I'm NOT the guy playing on this track. That is a whole other Dave Ingram (and, believe it or not, a very good friend of mine)

Please would you, on behalf of us Ingrams:

1.Make an additional entry to your comment pointing out your own error.

2. Do your homework properly in the future.

Thanks in advance,

Dave Ingram & Dave Ingram"

:haha:
"Dear conservationist666 My name is Dave Ingram. I'm the ex-vocalist from Benediction & Bolt Thrower. I'm NOT the guy playing on this track. That is a whole other Dave Ingram (and, believe it or not, a very good friend of mine) Please would you, on behalf of us Ingrams: 1.Make an additional entry to your comment pointing out your own error. 2. Do your homework properly in the future. Thanks in advance, Dave Ingram & Dave Ingram" :haha:
Posted: Oct 17, 2011 7:47 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 16th, 2011 at 6:46pm :
Somebody has already uploaded the Nightbringer demo to Youtube... they actually beat us to it haha. Also, they dubbed me as Mr. benediction. Which is both rubbish and really fucking funny, so I refuse to correct him.



What you guys failed to realise is that the uploader probably IS Benediction Dave Ingram.
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-16 18:46:16'] Somebody has already uploaded the Nightbringer demo to Youtube... they actually beat us to it haha. Also, they dubbed me as Mr. benediction. Which is both rubbish and really fucking funny, so I refuse to correct him.[/QUOTE]

 
What you guys failed to realise is that the uploader probably IS Benediction Dave Ingram.
Posted: Oct 17, 2011 12:16 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

It's not. His Youtube name is LapDog1. It's not. His Youtube name is LapDog1.
Posted: Oct 17, 2011 12:33 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Uploader is either an idiot or a troll. He labels Immolation deathcore... Uploader is either an idiot or a troll. He labels Immolation deathcore...
Posted: Oct 17, 2011 1:18 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 17th, 2011 at 7:33am :
It's not. His Youtube name is LapDog1.

I... See.
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-17 07:33:49']It's not. His Youtube name is LapDog1.[/QUOTE] I... See.
Posted: Oct 17, 2011 1:20 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Senor Kristian wrote on Oct 17th, 2011 at 8:18am :
Uploader is either an idiot or a troll. He labels Immolation deathcore...
Noticed that too haha.
[QUOTE u='Senor Kristian' d='2011-10-17 08:18:58']Uploader is either an idiot or a troll. He labels Immolation deathcore...[/QUOTE]Noticed that too haha.
Posted: Oct 17, 2011 1:25 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Vermintide wrote on Oct 17th, 2011 at 8:20am :
postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 17th, 2011 at 7:33am :
It's not. His Youtube name is LapDog1.

I... See.
bearing in mind that dave has sent me stuff from his Youtube before and also it's y'know... there on the comment
[QUOTE u='Vermintide' d='2011-10-17 08:20:42'][QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-17 07:33:49']It's not. His Youtube name is LapDog1.[/QUOTE] I... See.[/QUOTE]bearing in mind that dave has sent me stuff from his Youtube before and also it's y'know... there on the comment
Posted: Oct 17, 2011 1:47 PM - Quote - Report!

_harris

and nobody's ever had 2 youtube accounts before... :P and nobody's ever had 2 youtube accounts before... :P
Posted: Oct 18, 2011 11:05 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

yeah yeah yeah yap yackity yap yeah yeah yeah yap yackity yap
Posted: Oct 19, 2011 5:43 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

But I mean "LapDog1"?

Explains a lot about the guy really.
But I mean "LapDog1"? Explains a lot about the guy really.
Posted: Oct 19, 2011 3:34 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Explain Explain
Posted: Oct 19, 2011 5:25 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Well... His youtube name is that of a small canine bred to be kept in one's lap.

Just saiyan.
Well... His youtube name is that of a small canine bred to be kept in one's lap. Just saiyan.
Posted: Oct 19, 2011 10:24 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

He's still funnier and a better vocalist than both of us put together though haha.

Dave's a great lad. He's just an asshole when you give him a mic and some alcohol.
He's still funnier and a better vocalist than both of us put together though haha. Dave's a great lad. He's just an asshole when you give him a mic and some alcohol.
Posted: Oct 20, 2011 6:01 AM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 20th, 2011 at 1:01am :
He's just an asshole when you give him a mic and some alcohol.

I think that could be applied to everyone though.
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-20 01:01:09']He's just an asshole when you give him a mic and some alcohol.[/QUOTE] I think that could be applied to everyone though.
Posted: Oct 20, 2011 6:11 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

On the contrary, on my shows I was actually NICER when I was drunk :haha: On the contrary, on my shows I was actually NICER when I was drunk :haha:
Posted: Oct 21, 2011 6:43 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Uploaded 3 songs from our gig, in case anyone happens to give a poo. Uploaded 3 songs from our gig, in case anyone happens to give a poo.
Posted: Oct 21, 2011 7:45 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Oooh.

I've been waiting to hear what you've been working on for a while, and that certainly doesn't dissappoint. Pretty fucking good man. So when're you coming over here to work on that record huh?

I'll just say the band needs to be a bit more animated, everyone is stood stock still most of the time. But then I can't say I blame you considering the "audience" :p I was amused how the camera pans out to show a toddler running around in ear protectors and people just sat on sofas :haha:
Oooh.
 
I've been waiting to hear what you've been working on for a while, and that certainly doesn't dissappoint. Pretty fucking good man. So when're you coming over here to work on that record huh?
 
I'll just say the band needs to be a bit more animated, everyone is stood stock still most of the time. But then I can't say I blame you considering the "audience" :p I was amused how the camera pans out to show a toddler running around in ear protectors and people just sat on sofas :haha:
Posted: Oct 21, 2011 9:26 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

:haha:

Thanks man. Yeah, we need to work on the performance side. I guess since we didn't have many band rehearsals with the whole band, everyone was still a bit worried about just playing the songs right. That, and the audience (which, I know, shouldn't limit the performance), plus we were all completely sober, haha. Can't say I was nervous at all though.

Also, since we have a studio to use for free, and enough material for a full-lenght, we're probably gonna hurl out our first album with the help of that. But if that doesn't happen before next summer, we'll have to see. ;)
:haha: Thanks man. Yeah, we need to work on the performance side. I guess since we didn't have many band rehearsals with the whole band, everyone was still a bit worried about just playing the songs right. That, and the audience (which, I know, shouldn't limit the performance), plus we were all completely sober, haha. Can't say I was nervous at all though. Also, since we have a studio to use for free, and enough material for a full-lenght, we're probably gonna hurl out our first album with the help of that. But if that doesn't happen before next summer, we'll have to see. ;)
Posted: Oct 21, 2011 10:30 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Not bad. I dare say it's even great. Not bad. I dare say it's even great.
Posted: Oct 22, 2011 9:21 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Very good stuff indeed! Got a bit of an Obliveon vibe at some parts. Just the kind of progressive elements I can get on board with ;)
Liking the vocal style too.

What guitar is that though? Jackson zebra edition?
Very good stuff indeed! Got a bit of an Obliveon vibe at some parts. Just the kind of progressive elements I can get on board with ;) Liking the vocal style too. What guitar is that though? Jackson zebra edition?
Posted: Oct 22, 2011 12:44 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Whatever it is, it sounds good. That clean tone is amazing, and I'm very picky over the sound of clean guitars. Reminds me of Forests of Legend by Vektor. Whatever it is, it sounds good. That clean tone is amazing, and I'm very picky over the sound of clean guitars. Reminds me of Forests of Legend by Vektor.
Posted: Oct 22, 2011 5:22 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Thanks guys, glad you liked it! The guitar's actually just a cheap warrior knockoff, which happens to work well for me. But yeah, it creates a pretty sweet clean tone with the Randall head I was playing. Thanks guys, glad you liked it! The guitar's actually just a cheap warrior knockoff, which happens to work well for me. But yeah, it creates a pretty sweet clean tone with the Randall head I was playing.
Posted: Oct 23, 2011 12:06 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I'd expect the Obliveon vibe from Sev, considering how much he bums that band (and quite rightly).

A bit more polish and future endeavours will be stunning
I'd expect the Obliveon vibe from Sev, considering how much he bums that band (and quite rightly). A bit more polish and future endeavours will be stunning
Posted: Oct 23, 2011 12:45 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Just so you know though, I fully expect a re-recording of the first track from the Severity EP.

That song's fucking great.
Just so you know though, I fully expect a re-recording of the first track from the Severity EP. That song's fucking great.
Posted: Oct 23, 2011 12:54 PM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

That's pretty damn good, I look forward to hearing the whole album. Also, it reminded of Timeghoul (which of course is a good sign). That's pretty damn good, I look forward to hearing the whole album. Also, it reminded of Timeghoul (which of course is a good sign).
Posted: Oct 23, 2011 4:12 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Ha, Obliveon might've rubbed off on me a bit. Didn't expect it to remind one of Timeghoul, but considering that they're one of my favourite bands ever, along with Obliveon, I'm obviously flattered. Ha, Obliveon might've rubbed off on me a bit. Didn't expect it to remind one of Timeghoul, but considering that they're one of my favourite bands ever, along with Obliveon, I'm obviously flattered.
Posted: Oct 23, 2011 7:04 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Your influences will almost always show through strongly. Also, I know what a big fan you are so maybe that knowledge helps bring out the influences some more to my ears. Your influences will almost always show through strongly. Also, I know what a big fan you are so maybe that knowledge helps bring out the influences some more to my ears.
Posted: Oct 24, 2011 12:36 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

^Same for me. Just like the Coroner shirt made your vocal style remind me of that of Ron Royce. ^Same for me. Just like the Coroner shirt made your vocal style remind me of that of Ron Royce.
Posted: Oct 24, 2011 1:14 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Aye, when you know what I love, it's obviously easier to make the connection and see the influence. Aye, when you know what I love, it's obviously easier to make the connection and see the influence.
Posted: Oct 24, 2011 9:02 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Precisely. I'm somewhat different, since I love Pink Floyd yet sound fuck all like David Gilmour haha Precisely. I'm somewhat different, since I love Pink Floyd yet sound fuck all like David Gilmour haha
Posted: Oct 25, 2011 8:08 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Been doing a lot of writing recently.

And by that, I mean, writing that I am happy with, not the usual kind where I think it's cool for a few days and then purge from existence when I decide it's shit. The beautiful thing is that as the momentum gathers and I find myself writing more and more satisfactory material, my enthusiasm for writing only increases.

It's the getting started with a clean slate that's the hard part, but finally everything's getting there. I'd say we're already well over 50% complete in terms of writing for Black Sacrament. Also I keep getting asked what it'll sound like, which I hate, because I have no fucking clue frankly. I'm not trying to say I'm defying genres and forging new boundaries of metal originality here, but the range of influence is truly vast. I think that's what makes Vindicator end up sounding like... Well, Vindicator.

Ever wonder what Bolt Thrower/Carcass would sound like if they were a proto-black Teutonic thrash band with Adrian Smith and Dave Murray on guitars? If you can, you're somewhere close.
Been doing a lot of writing recently.
 
And by that, I mean, writing that I am happy with, not the usual kind where I think it's cool for a few days and then purge from existence when I decide it's shit. The beautiful thing is that as the momentum gathers and I find myself writing more and more satisfactory material, my enthusiasm for writing only increases.
 
It's the getting started with a clean slate that's the hard part, but finally everything's getting there. I'd say we're already well over 50% complete in terms of writing for Black Sacrament. Also I keep getting asked what it'll sound like, which I hate, because I have no fucking clue frankly. I'm not trying to say I'm defying genres and forging new boundaries of metal originality here, but the range of influence is truly vast. I think that's what makes Vindicator end up sounding like... Well, Vindicator.
 
Ever wonder what Bolt Thrower/Carcass would sound like if they were a proto-black Teutonic thrash band with Adrian Smith and Dave Murray on guitars? If you can, you're somewhere close.
Posted: Oct 27, 2011 7:54 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

On a related note, me and Chris are going to get cracking on two tracks when we find the time/money to get together for a weekend.

Also Verm, just to remind me - CoD is now PB1, correct? (lolcodespeak)
On a related note, me and Chris are going to get cracking on two tracks when we find the time/money to get together for a weekend. Also Verm, just to remind me - CoD is now PB1, correct? (lolcodespeak)
Posted: Oct 27, 2011 11:03 PM - Quote - Report!

_harris

Rager have just got out of the studio!!! Recorded what will be our first PROPER release, and its gonna be epic

Would LOVE to give a sneaky peeky but none of the tracks are mixed so it sounds a bit poop :P
Rager have just got out of the studio!!! Recorded what will be our first PROPER release, and its gonna be epic Would LOVE to give a sneaky peeky but none of the tracks are mixed so it sounds a bit poop :P
Posted: Oct 28, 2011 9:15 AM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

_harris wrote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:15am :
Recorded what will be our first PROPER release

Demo or album?
[QUOTE u='_harris' d='2011-10-28 04:15:36']Recorded what will be our first PROPER release[/QUOTE] Demo or album?
Posted: Oct 28, 2011 2:02 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 27th, 2011 at 6:03pm :
Also Verm, just to remind me - CoD is now PB1, correct? (lolcodespeak)

Correct. The blue trout escapes the undying spiral. The afforementioned preceeds the reliquiary.
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-27 18:03:41']Also Verm, just to remind me - CoD is now PB1, correct? (lolcodespeak)[/QUOTE] Correct. The blue trout escapes the undying spiral. The afforementioned preceeds the reliquiary.
Posted: Oct 28, 2011 2:33 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Sounds good Verm, but a question; will Black Sacrament be a full-lenght or an EP? Sounds good Verm, but a question; will Black Sacrament be a full-lenght or an EP?
Posted: Oct 28, 2011 6:04 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Full length, this has been stated many times.

Shit Sev, pull it together
Full length, this has been stated many times. Shit Sev, pull it together
Posted: Oct 29, 2011 12:53 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Sorry, I thought you might've mentioned it in the earlier thread, but it doesn't exist so I had to make sure. Good to hear though; it's due for a full-lenght, methinks. Sorry, I thought you might've mentioned it in the earlier thread, but it doesn't exist so I had to make sure. Good to hear though; it's due for a full-lenght, methinks.
Posted: Oct 29, 2011 12:59 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Indeed, I've already tired of playing The Crucified Priest. I've been hounding Verm for more new stuff almost constantly over the past few months.

Worry not, it'll be the best album ever.
Indeed, I've already tired of playing The Crucified Priest. I've been hounding Verm for more new stuff almost constantly over the past few months. Worry not, it'll be the best album ever.
Posted: Oct 29, 2011 1:01 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 29th, 2011 at 8:01am :
Indeed, I've already tired of playing The Crucified Priest.
Better suck it up man, we're gonna be playing these songs for years to come.

But fuck's sake am I bored of playing Lust For Flesh. DUHH DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-29 08:01:30']Indeed, I've already tired of playing The Crucified Priest.[/QUOTE] Better suck it up man, we're gonna be playing these songs for years to come.
 
But fuck's sake am I bored of playing Lust For Flesh. DUHH DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN
Posted: Oct 29, 2011 6:52 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Surprisingly, I'm not that bored of it... odd.

We gotta suck it up though, they're not tracks that we can nix from the set without people getting butthurt. At least not yet.
Surprisingly, I'm not that bored of it... odd. We gotta suck it up though, they're not tracks that we can nix from the set without people getting butthurt. At least not yet.
Posted: Oct 29, 2011 7:20 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

I don't think anyone actually gives a fuck, you know. We could just play Aura Noir tracks and nobody would notice the difference. I don't think anyone actually gives a fuck, you know. We could just play Aura Noir tracks and nobody would notice the difference.
Posted: Oct 29, 2011 7:31 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Except that if we did that, we'd be quite shit. Except that if we did that, we'd be quite shit.
Posted: Oct 29, 2011 10:05 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

Aura Noir are awesome, don't even try kid yourself that they're not Dave. I think you sound more like (newer) Nifelheim than Aura Noir though. Aura Noir are awesome, don't even try kid yourself that they're not Dave. I think you sound more like (newer) Nifelheim than Aura Noir though.
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 9:18 AM - Quote - Report!

_harris

MC Lukesta wrote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 9:02am :
_harris wrote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:15am :
Recorded what will be our first PROPER release

Demo or album?


Well not a demo... that's not a proper release... and not an album because we didnt record enough songs!!! EP dude
[QUOTE u='MC Lukesta' d='2011-10-28 09:02:16'][QUOTE u='_harris' d='2011-10-28 04:15:36']Recorded what will be our first PROPER release[/QUOTE] Demo or album?[/QUOTE] Well not a demo... that's not a proper release... and not an album because we didnt record enough songs!!! EP dude
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 1:03 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Chopped_In_Half wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 4:18am :
Aura Noir are awesome, don't even try kid yourself that they're not Dave. I think you sound more like (newer) Nifelheim than Aura Noir though.

Nahh, Dave just doesn't like black metal at all.

(I know, I know)
[QUOTE u='Chopped_In_Half' d='2011-10-31 04:18:47']Aura Noir are awesome, don't even try kid yourself that they're not Dave. I think you sound more like (newer) Nifelheim than Aura Noir though.[/QUOTE] Nahh, Dave just doesn't like black metal at all. (I know, I know)
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 7:58 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

Not even Black/Thrash??? Which is possibly the best combination known to man. Not even Black/Thrash??? Which is possibly the best combination known to man.
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 9:02 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

The guy was even unimpressed by Flagellator.

And we were both quite high when I put 'em on. So that tells you something.
The guy was even unimpressed by Flagellator. And we were both quite high when I put 'em on. So that tells you something.
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 9:53 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Is there even any black/thrash at all on the essential thrash list? (Link on the group index is broken btw) Is there even any black/thrash at all on the essential thrash list? (Link on the group index is broken btw)
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 10:13 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

I guess me and Dave have something in common, then. BM is just... not for me, I feel. I don't what exactly it is about it. I guess it's a combination of that black metal vocal style and the whole grimkvlt feel of the music. Maybe it's cause I live here in frostbitten Grimland that I'm more attracted by music that doesn't depict my habitat, and instead I'm drawn to the sort of music that takes me to places I want to see... or something. :p: I guess me and Dave have something in common, then. BM is just... not for me, I feel. I don't what exactly it is about it. I guess it's a combination of that black metal vocal style and the whole grimkvlt feel of the music. Maybe it's cause I live here in frostbitten Grimland that I'm more attracted by music that doesn't depict my habitat, and instead I'm drawn to the sort of music that takes me to places I want to see... or something. :p:
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 10:13 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

What you're describing is just one branch of black metal, you know, the stereotypical one. Applies to a lot of second wave bands from the Norwegian scene but there's plenty of other stuff.

I don't listen to much all out black metal myself but I listen to a ton of bands with prominent black metal influence. Often provides a great atmosphere.

Regardless of how you feel about black metal, I'm assuming you're familiar with Destryer 666?
What you're describing is just one branch of black metal, you know, the stereotypical one. Applies to a lot of second wave bands from the Norwegian scene but there's plenty of other stuff. I don't listen to much all out black metal myself but I listen to a ton of bands with prominent black metal influence. Often provides a great atmosphere. Regardless of how you feel about black metal, I'm assuming you're familiar with Destryer 666?
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 10:41 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Well, yeah, but bm or very strongly bm influenced stuff generally don't do anything for me.

And so to answer your question: Yes. Well, as familiar as I felt like getting with them. So, uhm, not that familiar. :(
Well, yeah, but bm or very strongly bm influenced stuff generally don't do anything for me. And so to answer your question: Yes. Well, as familiar as I felt like getting with them. So, uhm, not [i]that[/i] familiar. :(
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 10:48 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

Vermintide wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 4:53pm :
The guy was even unimpressed by Flagellator. And we were both quite high when I put 'em on. So that tells you something.


I'm not even sure brain can fathom this. Pot and Black/Thrash go hand in hand, especially Skeletonwitch and Nifelheim. How does he feel about War Metal?

Sanitarium91 wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 5:48pm :
Well, yeah, but bm or very strongly bm influenced stuff generally don't do anything for me. And so to answer your question: Yes. Well, as familiar as I felt like getting with them. So, uhm, not that familiar. :(


Do you know these bands? And if so, what do you think of them?

Desaster
Gospel of the Horns
Flagellator
Aura Noir
Bestial Warlust
Absu
Impiety
Cruel Force

And what about obvious stuff like old Sodom and Sarcofago?
[QUOTE u='Vermintide' d='2011-10-31 16:53:14']The guy was even unimpressed by Flagellator. And we were both quite high when I put 'em on. So that tells you something.[/QUOTE]
 
I'm not even sure brain can fathom this. Pot and Black/Thrash go hand in hand, especially Skeletonwitch and Nifelheim. How does he feel about War Metal?
 
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2011-10-31 17:48:12']Well, yeah, but bm or very strongly bm influenced stuff generally don't do anything for me. And so to answer your question: Yes. Well, as familiar as I felt like getting with them. So, uhm, not [i]that[/i] familiar. :([/QUOTE]
 
Do you know these bands? And if so, what do you think of them?
 
Desaster
Gospel of the Horns
Flagellator
Aura Noir
Bestial Warlust
Absu
Impiety
Cruel Force
 
And what about obvious stuff like old Sodom and Sarcofago?
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 11:40 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Desaster and Sarcofago are longtime favourites of mine, but most black-tinged stuff just pisses me off. I'm not the biggest fan of raspy screechy vocals or constant tremolo picking, which is what black metal is for the most part (stereotyping somewhat, but whatever. Fuck you). Desaster and Sarcofago are longtime favourites of mine, but most black-tinged stuff just pisses me off. I'm not the biggest fan of raspy screechy vocals or constant tremolo picking, which is what black metal is for the most part (stereotyping somewhat, but whatever. Fuck you).
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 12:28 AM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

Yeah, but that is somewhat ignorant. Granted, there is a lot of unoriginal and boring shit in Black Metal but there is a lot of awesomeness too. Listen to this, and if you don't like it you're clearly false: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyOII588Lcg Yeah, but that is somewhat ignorant. Granted, there is a lot of unoriginal and boring shit in Black Metal but there is a lot of awesomeness too. Listen to this, and if you don't like it you're clearly false: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyOII588Lcg
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 2:03 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 7:28pm :
Desaster and Sarcofago are longtime favourites of mine, but most black-tinged stuff just pisses me off. I'm not the biggest fan of raspy screechy vocals or constant tremolo picking, which is what black metal is for the most part (stereotyping somewhat, but whatever. Fuck you).

What you mean really, is that you don't like typical second-wave Norwegian style black metal. Understandable, it is somewhat love it or hate it.

When I say black metal, though, I'm referring more to the aesthetic and atmosphere. Stuff like Venom, Bathory, Tormentor, early Sodom/Kreator and so on is straight up heavy metal in terms of composition, but it's the sheer malice and evil contained within the sound that makes it black metal.
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-10-31 19:28:33']Desaster and Sarcofago are longtime favourites of mine, but most black-tinged stuff just pisses me off. I'm not the biggest fan of raspy screechy vocals or constant tremolo picking, which is what black metal is for the most part (stereotyping somewhat, but whatever. Fuck you).[/QUOTE] What you mean really, is that you don't like typical second-wave Norwegian style black metal. Understandable, it is somewhat love it or hate it. When I say black metal, though, I'm referring more to the aesthetic and atmosphere. Stuff like Venom, Bathory, Tormentor, early Sodom/Kreator and so on is straight up heavy metal in terms of composition, but it's the sheer malice and evil contained within the sound that makes it black metal.
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 4:49 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

That's a given, and such things I don't mind - Mercyful Fate and Sodom are enough to warrant that. But in general, black metal just feels... wrong. That's a given, and such things I don't mind - Mercyful Fate and Sodom are enough to warrant that. But in general, black metal just feels... wrong.
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 4:36 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Back on topic though, Black Sacrament will make you shit your pants. Back on topic though, Black Sacrament will make you shit your pants.
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 6:25 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

I find it funny that you don't like anything "black-tinged" yet Vindicator has a very strong Black Metal influence.

Mercyful Fate are not Black Metal! Though, they were a great inspiration for the genre.
I find it funny that you don't like anything "black-tinged" yet Vindicator has a very strong Black Metal influence. Mercyful Fate are not Black Metal! Though, they were a great inspiration for the genre.
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 9:21 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

I find it funny that you don't like anything "black-tinged" yet Vindicator has a very strong Black Metal influence.

Mercyful Fate are not Black Metal! Though, they were a great inspiration for the genre.
I find it funny that you don't like anything "black-tinged" yet Vindicator has a very strong Black Metal influence. Mercyful Fate are not Black Metal! Though, they were a great inspiration for the genre.
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 9:24 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Chopped_In_Half wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 6:40pm :

Desaster

Gospel of the Horns

Flagellator

Aura Noir

Bestial Warlust

Absu

Impiety

Cruel Force
Yes, I've heard at least something from most of those bands, but the thing is this: I can listen to them and my objectively thinking part of my brain might say"this is pretty good" while my actual, subjective, personal tastes put me off it. It's not my thing. Simplest way of putting it, really. No need to make it into anything more complicated than that.

As for Vindicator, I find Verms vocals tastier than your usual black/thrash bands'. I guess there's enough Angelripper in there. :p:
[QUOTE u='Chopped_In_Half' d='2011-10-31 18:40:15'] Desaster
Gospel of the Horns
Flagellator
Aura Noir
Bestial Warlust
Absu
Impiety
Cruel Force
[/QUOTE]Yes, I've heard at least something from most of those bands, but the thing is this: I can listen to them and my objectively thinking part of my brain might say"this is pretty good" while my actual, subjective, personal tastes put me off it. [i]It's not my thing[/i]. Simplest way of putting it, really. No need to make it into anything more complicated than that. As for Vindicator, I find Verms vocals tastier than your usual black/thrash bands'. I guess there's enough Angelripper in there. :p:
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 9:59 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Chopped_In_Half wrote on Nov 1st, 2011 at 4:21pm :
I find it funny that you don't like anything "black-tinged" yet Vindicator has a very strong Black Metal influence.

Mercyful Fate are not Black Metal! Though, they were a great inspiration for the genre.
I know, bizarre isn't it?

Also, MF are totally proto-black metal to a certain degree. I think many would say that.
[QUOTE u='Chopped_In_Half' d='2011-11-01 16:21:28']I find it funny that you don't like anything "black-tinged" yet Vindicator has a very strong Black Metal influence. Mercyful Fate are not Black Metal! Though, they were a great inspiration for the genre.[/QUOTE] I know, bizarre isn't it? Also, MF are totally proto-black metal to a certain degree. I think many would say that.
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 10:37 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

Maybe image wise and lyrically, but musically they're heavy metal. Maybe image wise and lyrically, but musically they're heavy metal.
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 11:23 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Doesn't change the fact that they're commonly associated with black metal. Doesn't change the fact that they're commonly associated with black metal.
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 11:57 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

Popular opinion does not equal facts David. But yes, like I said, they were a large influence on most early Black Metal bands, but they themselves are satanically themed Heavy Metal. Popular opinion does not equal facts David. But yes, like I said, they were a large influence on most early Black Metal bands, but they themselves are satanically themed Heavy Metal.
Posted: Nov 2, 2011 1:37 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Call me that again and I'll fuck you so hard that you'll be joining Stephen hawking in the retard olympics. Call me that again and I'll fuck you so hard that you'll be joining Stephen hawking in the retard olympics.
Posted: Nov 2, 2011 1:58 AM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

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:haha: :haha: :haha:

hahahahahahaha

:haha:
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Posted: Nov 2, 2011 2:15 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I mean it, fucknuts. I mean it, fucknuts.
Posted: Nov 2, 2011 2:31 AM - Quote - Report!

_harris

New Rager mixes have come back!!! Aside from a few minor tweaks it's as good as finished :D New Rager mixes have come back!!! Aside from a few minor tweaks it's as good as finished :D
Posted: Nov 2, 2011 10:51 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Chopped_In_Half wrote on Nov 1st, 2011 at 6:23pm :
Maybe image wise and lyrically, but musically they're heavy metal.

I'd say speed metal.

But that's just being utterly pedantic.
[QUOTE u='Chopped_In_Half' d='2011-11-01 18:23:26']Maybe image wise and lyrically, but musically they're heavy metal.[/QUOTE] I'd say speed metal. But that's just being utterly pedantic.
Posted: Nov 2, 2011 4:04 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

Why don't you start a speed metal side project called Pedantic Rodents?

You're right, though. Speed Metal probably is more accurate.

Posty, chill out. And _harris, where/when can we hear it???
Why don't you start a speed metal side project called Pedantic Rodents? You're right, though. Speed Metal probably is more accurate. Posty, chill out. And _harris, where/when can we hear it???
Posted: Nov 2, 2011 9:21 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Chopped_In_Half wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 4:21pm :
_harris, where/when can we hear it???
This. Will be interested to hear where you guys are musically now.
[QUOTE u='Chopped_In_Half' d='2011-11-02 16:21:32']_harris, where/when can we hear it???[/QUOTE]This. Will be interested to hear where you guys are musically now.
Posted: Nov 2, 2011 10:23 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Rager are amazing. End of. Rager are amazing. End of.
Posted: Nov 3, 2011 5:06 AM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

Rager have released something before haven't they? I seem to recall listening to something by you guys years ago. Rager have released something before haven't they? I seem to recall listening to something by you guys years ago.
Posted: Nov 3, 2011 5:55 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Indeed, and bloody good it was. Indeed, and bloody good it was.
Posted: Nov 4, 2011 2:43 PM - Quote - Report!

_harris

Thanks Dave :)

Sanitarium91 wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 5:23pm :
Chopped_In_Half wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 4:21pm :
_harris, where/when can we hear it???
This. Will be interested to hear where you guys are musically now.


well, it's not quite a full display of where we are now, thought we'd re-do a couple of older numbers, and a couple of old(ish) tracks that were never recorded properly! and probably a sneaky "demo version" of something very new! Done this in mind of recording just new tracks in a couple of months ;)
Thanks Dave :) [QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2011-11-02 17:23:07'][QUOTE u='Chopped_In_Half' d='2011-11-02 16:21:32']_harris, where/when can we hear it???[/QUOTE]This. Will be interested to hear where you guys are musically now.[/QUOTE] well, it's not quite a full display of where we are now, thought we'd re-do a couple of older numbers, and a couple of old(ish) tracks that were never recorded properly! and probably a sneaky "demo version" of something very new! Done this in mind of recording just new tracks in a couple of months ;)
Posted: Nov 5, 2011 10:28 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Oh, well, it'll be interesting to hear these re-doings as well, since I remember liking those songs. Plus it was ages since I heard them. Oh, well, it'll be interesting to hear these re-doings as well, since I remember liking those songs. Plus it was ages since I heard them.
Posted: Nov 5, 2011 1:33 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Rehearsal... holy shit. Wow. You assholes best attend Selby, your minds will fucking explode. Rehearsal... holy shit. Wow. You assholes best attend Selby, your minds will fucking explode.
Posted: Nov 6, 2011 12:03 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

BUMP!

Selby was actually a fucking amazing show - first time we've had people offer us gifts, request songs during the set, go totally fucking mental and even ask us to sign some stuff. Insane. Nothing new coming up except the small matter of Black Sacrament, which will be the best album ever.

Since I ain't writing much for BS, I'll probably use my downtime to get to work on the Skullstrm demo. That too will be fucking immense.
BUMP! Selby was actually a fucking amazing show - first time we've had people offer us gifts, request songs during the set, go totally fucking mental and even ask us to sign some stuff. Insane. Nothing new coming up except the small matter of Black Sacrament, which will be the best album ever. Since I ain't writing much for BS, I'll probably use my downtime to get to work on the Skullstrm demo. That too will be fucking immense.
Posted: Nov 14, 2011 4:03 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Good on you guys, sounds great.

Hopefully we can hit the recordang booth soon as well. I reckon we'll have a couple rehearsals to get ready for it, but hopefully by the end of the year we've got something tracked so we can finish it all off after Christmas. Well see how it works out.
Good on you guys, sounds great. Hopefully we can hit the recordang booth soon as well. I reckon we'll have a couple rehearsals to get ready for it, but hopefully by the end of the year we've got [i]something[/i] tracked so we can finish it all off after Christmas. Well see how it works out.
Posted: Nov 14, 2011 3:39 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

We'll mix it We'll mix it
Posted: Nov 14, 2011 7:49 PM - Quote - Report!

Chopped_In_Half

So, Slaughtergod can fuck off. I seem to be the only one actually committed to it so I told the rest of the guys I'm done with it (when they finally managed to turn up for a rehearsal). Not the best start for my first ever band. So, Slaughtergod can fuck off. I seem to be the only one actually committed to it so I told the rest of the guys I'm done with it (when they finally managed to turn up for a rehearsal). Not the best start for my first ever band.
Posted: Nov 15, 2011 5:34 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

No need to give up that easily No need to give up that easily
Posted: Nov 15, 2011 9:34 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

postmortem2006 wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 2:49pm :
We'll mix it


Well, I would like to do it myself buuuut... on the other hand, I would also like it to sound good. Hmm, tell ya what, if I'm unable of getting satisfying results I won't forget who to contact. ;)
postmortem2006 wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 4:34am :
No need to give up that easily


Also, this.
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-11-14 14:49:37']We'll mix it[/QUOTE] Well, I would like to do it myself buuuut... on the other hand, I would also like it to sound good. Hmm, tell ya what, if I'm unable of getting satisfying results I won't forget who to contact. ;) [QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-11-15 04:34:55']No need to give up that easily[/QUOTE] Also, this.
Posted: Nov 16, 2011 4:36 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Yeah, seriously. Get new member who'll actually give a fuck, go outside of your twon/city if you need to. Yeah, seriously. Get new member who'll actually give a fuck, go outside of your twon/city if you need to.
Posted: Nov 16, 2011 5:34 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

I can at least give you a few pointers in the mixing department if you get stuck brah. Depends what you're doing, how it's recorded and what atmosphere you wanna end up with.

postmortem2006 wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 2:49pm :
We'll mix it

Who's "we"?
I can at least give you a few pointers in the mixing department if you get stuck brah. Depends what you're doing, how it's recorded and what atmosphere you wanna end up with. [QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-11-14 14:49:37']We'll mix it[/QUOTE] Who's "we"?
Posted: Nov 17, 2011 7:08 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Me and my friend, Mr. Boot-Up-Your-Ass Me and my friend, Mr. Boot-Up-Your-Ass
Posted: Nov 17, 2011 9:44 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Atm: research on drum tracking. Oh noes... Atm: research on drum tracking. Oh noes...
Posted: Nov 19, 2011 9:23 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

hahaha.

Setting up a new Vindickator page because Facebook is run by faggots who obviously can't read and don't understand that we're not a fucking tribute act to that shitty American band.
hahaha. Setting up a new Vindickator page because Facebook is run by faggots who obviously can't read and don't understand that we're not a fucking tribute act to that shitty American band.
Posted: Nov 20, 2011 4:15 AM - Quote - Report!

_harris

quick RAGER update - everything's finished for the EP release, just gotta get these fuckers printed!!!

Image Of Fear coming soon.... its sounding pretty cool- head over to the facebook page for a little teaser :P
quick RAGER update - everything's finished for the EP release, just gotta get these fuckers printed!!! Image Of Fear coming soon.... its sounding pretty cool- head over to the facebook page for a little teaser :P
Posted: Dec 6, 2011 12:27 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Link, my good man, link! I'm too lazy and inept to find it alone. Link, my good man, link! I'm too lazy and inept to find it alone.
Posted: Dec 6, 2011 11:37 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Nah, just lazy :p Nah, just lazy :p
Posted: Dec 6, 2011 11:56 PM - Quote - Report!

BlackThrash

Reading the Title of this Thread I Assume we are talking about Thrash metal bands we are in... (corect me if I'm wrong)

I'm in a (shitty) Black Thrash band Called Urban Warfare.
:P
Reading the Title of this Thread I Assume we are talking about Thrash metal bands we are in... (corect me if I'm wrong) I'm in a (shitty) Black Thrash band Called Urban Warfare. :P
Posted: Dec 9, 2011 6:22 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Link! Link!
Posted: Dec 9, 2011 10:28 PM - Quote - Report!

BlackThrash

sry about that :P

Aqui www.facebook.com/urbanWarfareMiami
Demo ~~~~> http://www.mediafire.com/?w0l46ek2kntvrjk
sry about that :P

Aqui www.facebook.com/urbanWarfareMiami
Demo ~~~~> http://www.mediafire.com/?w0l46ek2kntvrjk
Posted: Dec 10, 2011 7:38 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Ahhhhh left panned guitars what the hell am I listening to :wtf: Balance that shit out son!

I mean the music is decent, and your vocalist has a very nice rasp, but you can't expect a guy to put up with the constant irritation of a guitar in one ear and silence in the other :p
Ahhhhh left panned guitars what the hell am I listening to :wtf: Balance that shit out son! I mean the music is decent, and your vocalist has a very nice rasp, but you can't expect a guy to put up with the constant irritation of a guitar in one ear and silence in the other :p
Posted: Dec 11, 2011 11:52 AM - Quote - Report!

BlackThrash

I know, why you think we called the demo Ghetto Thrash :/

We were absolutely Broke at the time, Nobody would record us for free, and we resorted using a busted Karaoke Mic that we found behind some Electronics store


and cuz I feel bad that I put you through that
Here is the my band is currently working on that has waaay better quality
http://www.mediafire.com/?u946d0jh5taquxc

Btw, In the track "Dominate Me" I sing the first Verse :D
I know, why you think we called the demo [i]Ghetto Thrash[/i] :/

We were absolutely Broke at the time, Nobody would record us for free, and we resorted using a busted Karaoke Mic that we found behind some Electronics store


and cuz I feel bad that I put you through that
Here is the my band is currently working on that has waaay better quality
http://www.mediafire.com/?u946d0jh5taquxc

Btw, In the track "Dominate Me" I sing the first Verse :D
Posted: Dec 11, 2011 12:13 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

It's all good, I just spent ten minutes giving your tracks a quick re-master and they're perfectly listenable now ;) The tone of the guitars is great, it's just annoying when it's on one side.

Better and better. I'll be keeping my eye on you chaps.
It's all good, I just spent ten minutes giving your tracks a quick re-master and they're perfectly listenable now ;) The tone of the guitars is great, it's just annoying when it's on one side. Better and better. I'll be keeping my eye on you chaps.
Posted: Dec 11, 2011 12:44 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Verm, I ordered a Vindicator t-shirt about 3 or 4 months ago when I first heard "Undead In Leather", still not here. You guys aren't rip offs right? Verm, I ordered a Vindicator t-shirt about 3 or 4 months ago when I first heard "Undead In Leather", still not here. You guys aren't rip offs right?
Posted: Dec 11, 2011 9:14 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Nope. The problem is that Royal Mail seems to have some sort of blood grudge against us shipping merchandise to people - you're not the only one who's not recieved their shit. Verm handles the shipping, but they simply... well, go fucking missing in the post. We're as furious about it as you are.

Verm will give you the full details, I'm sure.
Nope. The problem is that Royal Mail seems to have some sort of blood grudge against us shipping merchandise to people - you're not the only one who's not recieved their shit. Verm handles the shipping, but they simply... well, go fucking missing in the post. We're as furious about it as you are. Verm will give you the full details, I'm sure.
Posted: Dec 12, 2011 5:20 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Abomination94 wrote on Dec 11th, 2011 at 4:14pm :
Verm, I ordered a Vindicator t-shirt about 3 or 4 months ago when I first heard "Undead In Leather", still not here. You guys aren't rip offs right?
If you live in New Zealand I got one returned a while back thanks to the tax declaration being somehow insufficient- I fired off an e-mail to whoever's it was seeing if they were willing to pay for a proper courier, or if they wanted it sending again, or a refund or whatever and never got a reply.

I haven't heard back from anyone else so I ASSUME they actually arrived this time. Dave's correct though, the Royal Mail hates us. I actually think the guys at my post office are secret Vindicator fans and keeping the merch themselves.
[QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2011-12-11 16:14:42']Verm, I ordered a Vindicator t-shirt about 3 or 4 months ago when I first heard "Undead In Leather", still not here. You guys aren't rip offs right?[/QUOTE] If you live in New Zealand I got one returned a while back thanks to the tax declaration being somehow insufficient- I fired off an e-mail to whoever's it was seeing if they were willing to pay for a proper courier, or if they wanted it sending again, or a refund or whatever and never got a reply.
 
I haven't heard back from anyone else so I ASSUME they actually arrived this time. Dave's correct though, the Royal Mail hates us. I actually think the guys at my post office are secret Vindicator fans and keeping the merch themselves.
Posted: Dec 12, 2011 8:06 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Stockpiling for the ratchildren of the future Stockpiling for the ratchildren of the future
Posted: Dec 12, 2011 8:47 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

^^Or Vindicator US fans. ^^Or Vindicator US fans.
Posted: Dec 12, 2011 9:31 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Hhoh! Hhoh!
Posted: Dec 12, 2011 9:51 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Vermintide wrote on Dec 12th, 2011 at 3:06pm :
Abomination94 wrote on Dec 11th, 2011 at 4:14pm :
Verm, I ordered a Vindicator t-shirt about 3 or 4 months ago when I first heard "Undead In Leather", still not here. You guys aren't rip offs right?
If you live in New Zealand I got one returned a while back thanks to the tax declaration being somehow insufficient- I fired off an e-mail to whoever's it was seeing if they were willing to pay for a proper courier, or if they wanted it sending again, or a refund or whatever and never got a reply.

I haven't heard back from anyone else so I ASSUME they actually arrived this time. Dave's correct though, the Royal Mail hates us. I actually think the guys at my post office are secret Vindicator fans and keeping the merch themselves.
That was probably me, but I don't think I ever got an e-mail from you. Yes. I would be willing to pay for a proper courier, just let me know how.

While you're at it, chuck in a copy of Undead In Leather (I'll pay of course) as well :p


EDIT: Yo, thrasherfags, I just uploaded a guitar and vocal cover of "Tormentor" by the almighty Kreator. I'd really like some feedback on it (make sure it's constructive ;)) be brutally honest, my only goal is to learn how I can improve. But also point out what I did well too so I can work on making it even better. Sorry about the crap quality, it was recorded on a $70 mp3 player, and yes I know my guitar tone sucks but that's the best I can get on that shitty amp.

Anyway, rate and comment!
[QUOTE u='Vermintide' d='2011-12-12 15:06:25'][QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2011-12-11 16:14:42']Verm, I ordered a Vindicator t-shirt about 3 or 4 months ago when I first heard "Undead In Leather", still not here. You guys aren't rip offs right?[/QUOTE] If you live in New Zealand I got one returned a while back thanks to the tax declaration being somehow insufficient- I fired off an e-mail to whoever's it was seeing if they were willing to pay for a proper courier, or if they wanted it sending again, or a refund or whatever and never got a reply.
 
I haven't heard back from anyone else so I ASSUME they actually arrived this time. Dave's correct though, the Royal Mail hates us. I actually think the guys at my post office are secret Vindicator fans and keeping the merch themselves.
[/QUOTE] That was probably me, but I don't think I ever got an e-mail from you. Yes. I would be willing to pay for a proper courier, just let me know how.
 
While you're at it, chuck in a copy of Undead In Leather (I'll pay of course) as well :p

 
EDIT: Yo, thrasherfags, I just uploaded a guitar and vocal cover of "Tormentor" by the almighty Kreator. I'd really like some feedback on it (make sure it's constructive ;)) be brutally honest, my only goal is to learn how I can improve. But also point out what I did well too so I can work on making it even better. Sorry about the crap quality, it was recorded on a $70 mp3 player, and yes I know my guitar tone sucks but that's the best I can get on that shitty amp.
 
Anyway, rate and comment!
Posted: Dec 12, 2011 11:25 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Looks like we might have a cover showdown on our hands... Although admittedly our version won't be along for a good while.

As for critique, well, your guitar work is a bit sloppy here and there, but then so is Kreator's :p You have a good vocal sound overall, but I'd say maybe try and make it a bit more dynamic and expressive? It's easy to go a bit overboard, and lose the sylables of the actual words amidst the grit. You don't want it end up as just RAAH RAH RA RAAH RAHHH

Good work though brah.
Looks like we might have a cover showdown on our hands... Although admittedly our version won't be along for a good while. As for critique, well, your guitar work is a bit sloppy here and there, but then so is Kreator's :p You have a good vocal sound overall, but I'd say maybe try and make it a bit more dynamic and expressive? It's easy to go a bit overboard, and lose the sylables of the actual words amidst the grit. You don't want it end up as just RAAH RAH RA RAAH RAHHH Good work though brah.
Posted: Dec 13, 2011 10:45 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Keep in mind I've only be playing for 5 months and doing vocals for nearly 2. I'm still working on playing and singing (lol, "singing") at the same time.
Yeah, I know what you mean. That is one thing I've admired about your vox Verm, there fully evil and black metal but you can still easily understand the words, got any tips?
Could you elaborate on dynamic and expressive? Not entirely sure what you mean by that.
Thank you for listening and giving me feedback. It's much appreciated.

Are Vindicator doing Tormentor as well?
Keep in mind I've only be playing for 5 months and doing vocals for nearly 2. I'm still working on playing and singing (lol, "singing") at the same time.
Yeah, I know what you mean. That is one thing I've admired about your vox Verm, there fully evil and black metal but you can still easily understand the words, got any tips?
Could you elaborate on dynamic and expressive? Not entirely sure what you mean by that.
Thank you for listening and giving me feedback. It's much appreciated.
 
Are Vindicator doing Tormentor as well?
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 5:27 AM - Quote - Report!

Situacao

Basically, it's what Verm said really. Sometimes, guitar wise, it seems that you're going to lose your timing, but you manage to get it right not long after. In terms of vocals, it seems like you're going for a Norwegian Black Metal approach. If that's what you're aiming, then they're great. If not, maybe you should try singing the lyrics "normally" before adding the screech.

Nevertheless, good job, keep at it!
Basically, it's what Verm said really. Sometimes, guitar wise, it seems that you're going to lose your timing, but you manage to get it right not long after. In terms of vocals, it seems like you're going for a Norwegian Black Metal approach. If that's what you're aiming, then they're great. If not, maybe you should try singing the lyrics "normally" before adding the screech. Nevertheless, good job, keep at it!
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 11:04 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Verm needs to work on using his diaphragm more if I'm honest. Just saiyan. Verm needs to work on using his diaphragm more if I'm honest. Just saiyan.
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 5:28 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Nahh, I've tried it and it just makes me sound like a shit version of Johann Hegg.
Abomination94 wrote on Dec 14th, 2011 at 12:27am :
Keep in mind I've only be playing for 5 months and doing vocals for nearly 2. I'm still working on playing and singing (lol, "singing") at the same time.
Yeah, I know what you mean. That is one thing I've admired about your vox Verm, there fully evil and black metal but you can still easily understand the words, got any tips?
Could you elaborate on dynamic and expressive? Not entirely sure what you mean by that.
Thank you for listening and giving me feedback. It's much appreciated.

Are Vindicator doing Tormentor as well?
I dunno, I think it's partly in the method of adding the "grit" if you follow me. Try do it more from your actual voicebox rather than constricting your throat, if that makes any sense. Avoid shaping the sound with your tongue at all costs, just pronounce it how you would normally but with a lot of aggression.

By "dynamic" I mean, as in sonically interesting. If you're not careful BM vox just end up as a wall of high pitched RAAAAHHH type noise. It's just as important to vary the pitch and tone as with other types of singing.

And maybe ;) We have tons of songs we want to cover, but we can't do them all or we'd end up with more covers than original material :p Needless to say, we have plans, but I won't say too much for now.
Nahh, I've tried it and it just makes me sound like a shit version of Johann Hegg. [QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2011-12-14 00:27:11']Keep in mind I've only be playing for 5 months and doing vocals for nearly 2. I'm still working on playing and singing (lol, "singing") at the same time.
Yeah, I know what you mean. That is one thing I've admired about your vox Verm, there fully evil and black metal but you can still easily understand the words, got any tips?
Could you elaborate on dynamic and expressive? Not entirely sure what you mean by that.
Thank you for listening and giving me feedback. It's much appreciated.
 
Are Vindicator doing Tormentor as well?
[/QUOTE] I dunno, I think it's partly in the method of adding the "grit" if you follow me. Try do it more from your actual voicebox rather than constricting your throat, if that makes any sense. Avoid shaping the sound with your tongue at all costs, just pronounce it how you would normally but with a lot of aggression.
 
By "dynamic" I mean, as in sonically interesting. If you're not careful BM vox just end up as a wall of high pitched RAAAAHHH type noise. It's just as important to vary the pitch and tone as with other types of singing.
 
And maybe ;) We have tons of songs we want to cover, but we can't do them all or we'd end up with more covers than original material :p Needless to say, we have plans, but I won't say too much for now.
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 8:03 PM - Quote - Report!

_harris

Rager finally got a new recording online!!!
reverbnation.com/rager
or myspace.com/ragermetal
:P
Rager finally got a new recording online!!!
reverbnation.com/rager
or myspace.com/ragermetal
:P
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 8:18 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Loving it man!

That is, until it automatically put Slipknot on after your tracks had finished.



My face when.
Loving it man!

That is, until it automatically put Slipknot on after your tracks had finished.



My face when.
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 9:06 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Rollins! Rollins!
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 9:33 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Vermintide wrote on Dec 14th, 2011 at 3:03pm :
Nahh, I've tried it and it just makes me sound like a shit version of Johann Hegg.
Abomination94 wrote on Dec 14th, 2011 at 12:27am :
Keep in mind I've only be playing for 5 months and doing vocals for nearly 2. I'm still working on playing and singing (lol, "singing") at the same time.
Yeah, I know what you mean. That is one thing I've admired about your vox Verm, there fully evil and black metal but you can still easily understand the words, got any tips?
Could you elaborate on dynamic and expressive? Not entirely sure what you mean by that.
Thank you for listening and giving me feedback. It's much appreciated.

Are Vindicator doing Tormentor as well?
I dunno, I think it's partly in the method of adding the "grit" if you follow me. Try do it more from your actual voicebox rather than constricting your throat, if that makes any sense. Avoid shaping the sound with your tongue at all costs, just pronounce it how you would normally but with a lot of aggression.

By "dynamic" I mean, as in sonically interesting. If you're not careful BM vox just end up as a wall of high pitched RAAAAHHH type noise. It's just as important to vary the pitch and tone as with other types of singing.

And maybe ;) We have tons of songs we want to cover, but we can't do them all or we'd end up with more covers than original material :p Needless to say, we have plans, but I won't say too much for now.


Funny that. I'm going to be doing Outbreak of Evil either tonight or tommorrow. Learnt the guitar ages ago but only just got round to getting the lyrics.

Thanks for the tips, I'll try work on those things and we'll see how it goes when I do Outbreak.
[QUOTE u='Vermintide' d='2011-12-14 15:03:58']Nahh, I've tried it and it just makes me sound like a shit version of Johann Hegg. [QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2011-12-14 00:27:11']Keep in mind I've only be playing for 5 months and doing vocals for nearly 2. I'm still working on playing and singing (lol, "singing") at the same time.
Yeah, I know what you mean. That is one thing I've admired about your vox Verm, there fully evil and black metal but you can still easily understand the words, got any tips?
Could you elaborate on dynamic and expressive? Not entirely sure what you mean by that.
Thank you for listening and giving me feedback. It's much appreciated.
 
Are Vindicator doing Tormentor as well?
[/QUOTE] I dunno, I think it's partly in the method of adding the "grit" if you follow me. Try do it more from your actual voicebox rather than constricting your throat, if that makes any sense. Avoid shaping the sound with your tongue at all costs, just pronounce it how you would normally but with a lot of aggression.
 
By "dynamic" I mean, as in sonically interesting. If you're not careful BM vox just end up as a wall of high pitched RAAAAHHH type noise. It's just as important to vary the pitch and tone as with other types of singing.
 
And maybe ;) We have tons of songs we want to cover, but we can't do them all or we'd end up with more covers than original material :p Needless to say, we have plans, but I won't say too much for now.
[/QUOTE] Funny that. I'm going to be doing Outbreak of Evil either tonight or tommorrow. Learnt the guitar ages ago but only just got round to getting the lyrics. Thanks for the tips, I'll try work on those things and we'll see how it goes when I do Outbreak.
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 11:41 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Yup, we did that. We fucking ruined it. Yup, we did that. We fucking ruined it.
Posted: Dec 15, 2011 1:07 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

I don't mind your version of Outbreak, it's pretty good, but then I'm a total Vindicator fanboy :p

Also, in the intro after the E|-00000000000000002222222222233333333333 part, how do you play the next bit?

I just do this because it sounds closeish: e|-12h14p14h12 etc. etc.

Is that right?
I don't mind your version of Outbreak, it's pretty good, but then I'm a total Vindicator fanboy :p Also, in the intro after the E|-00000000000000002222222222233333333333 part, how do you play the next bit? I just do this because it sounds closeish: e|-12h14p14h12 etc. etc. Is that right?
Posted: Dec 15, 2011 5:09 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

I have no idea. There's a reason we left that intro off. It sounds like you're pretty much correct, and let's face it, if you're covering the Sign Of Evil version it doesn't exactly have to be accurate.
postmortem2006 wrote on Dec 14th, 2011 at 8:07pm :
Yup, we did that. We fucking ruined it.
I know man, straightening out the timing and playing a decent solo, the fuck were we thinking. Must have been that bad acid. I thought I was Tommy Vetterli for a week.
I have no idea. There's a reason we left that intro off. It sounds like you're pretty much correct, and let's face it, if you're covering the Sign Of Evil version it doesn't exactly have to be accurate. [QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2011-12-14 20:07:06']Yup, we did that. We fucking ruined it.[/QUOTE] I know man, straightening out the timing and playing a decent solo, the fuck were we thinking. Must have been that bad acid. I thought I was Tommy Vetterli for a week.
Posted: Dec 15, 2011 10:02 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

If you were Tommy Vetterli, holy shit... we'd be amazing. Tommy Vermintide. Make it happen. If you were Tommy Vetterli, holy shit... we'd be amazing. Tommy Vermintide. Make it happen.
Posted: Dec 15, 2011 10:10 AM - Quote - Report!

_harris

Tommy Vermintidy :P Tommy Vermintidy :P
Posted: Dec 16, 2011 12:23 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Verommy Vetideli Verommy Vetideli
Posted: Dec 16, 2011 5:03 AM - Quote - Report!

BlackThrash

Yo I feel My band, Urban Warfare, Is about to Split-up because one of member is complete dead weight and contribute nothing to the band put his hobby more over his own band. Another Member has to much Personal Shit to deal with. and Last member is a New Guy to the band and been with use for 3-4 weeks. I personally Don't want the band to Split but at the same time nothing Is fucking happening and I'm writing and recording all the songs by myself and fucking sick of it.

Guys got any advice, please tell me now....
Yo I feel My band, Urban Warfare, Is about to Split-up because one of member is complete dead weight and contribute nothing to the band put his hobby more over his own band. Another Member has to much Personal Shit to deal with. and Last member is a New Guy to the band and been with use for 3-4 weeks. I personally Don't want the band to Split but at the same time nothing Is fucking happening and I'm writing and recording all the songs by myself and fucking sick of it. Guys got any advice, please tell me now....
Posted: Dec 16, 2011 5:35 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Find new members. Simple.

I've been in that position more times than I care to count, it's daunting and very depressing - but that's not excuse to give up. Enthusiasm, perseverence and most of all, PATIENCE.
Find new members. Simple. I've been in that position more times than I care to count, it's daunting and very depressing - but that's not excuse to give up. Enthusiasm, perseverence and most of all, PATIENCE.
Posted: Dec 16, 2011 8:36 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

I'm slightly confused by the way you're capitalizing words but I imagine forming a band is just like working on anything else. Find people that share your vision and level of commitment and learn to get along with them, rather than finding people to get along with and trying to find a common goal. I'm slightly confused by the way you're capitalizing words but I imagine forming a band is just like working on anything else. Find people that share your vision and level of commitment and learn to get along with them, rather than finding people to get along with and trying to find a common goal.
Posted: Dec 16, 2011 9:22 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

That. That.
Posted: Dec 16, 2011 10:36 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

It's a balance of the two really. Band work is both a relaxing, fulfilling hobby; but also often incredibly stressful and puts you through some quite nightmarish experiences.

You have to get along with them, otherwise you're just gonna bitch at each other all the time and nothing will get done. But on the other hand, you don't really wanna start a band with your lifetime best friend in the world, because there's every chance it'll tear you apart. It's very easy for a band to develop that familial sort of relationship, where you're inseperably tight, but at each other's neck constantly.

You just have to keep in mind that as a band, you go through all the shit together. You need to have a group of guys who share your mindset, or things will fall apart very quickly.

In your case, I wouldn't agree with Posty's over-simplified suggestion of just firing everyone. If you can't call a band meeting and gather everyone together to discuss it, maybe then you should consider it. Otherwise it'd just a be Dave Mustaine type dick move. The other members of the band may be causing the problems, but how you deal with it (assuming you're the leader) is just as important. Have some maturity and don't let anyone's pride get in the way.
It's a balance of the two really. Band work is both a relaxing, fulfilling hobby; but also often incredibly stressful and puts you through some quite nightmarish experiences.
 
You have to get along with them, otherwise you're just gonna bitch at each other all the time and nothing will get done. But on the other hand, you don't really wanna start a band with your lifetime best friend in the world, because there's every chance it'll tear you apart. It's very easy for a band to develop that familial sort of relationship, where you're inseperably tight, but at each other's neck constantly.
 
You just have to keep in mind that as a band, you go through all the shit together. You need to have a group of guys who share your mindset, or things will fall apart very quickly.

In your case, I wouldn't agree with Posty's over-simplified suggestion of just firing everyone. If you can't call a band meeting and gather everyone together to discuss it, maybe then you should consider it. Otherwise it'd just a be Dave Mustaine type dick move. The other members of the band may be causing the problems, but how you deal with it (assuming you're the leader) is just as important. Have some maturity and don't let anyone's pride get in the way.
Posted: Dec 17, 2011 9:03 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Sorry BlackThrash, I have zero band experience so I can't really help your situation but I'd say Verm, posty and Kristian pretty much covered it anyway.

Outbreak of Evil cover is up, same story as before. I tried to vary my vocals a bit more on this one. Tell me what you think.
Sorry BlackThrash, I have zero band experience so I can't really help your situation but I'd say Verm, posty and Kristian pretty much covered it anyway. Outbreak of Evil cover is up, same story as before. I tried to vary my vocals a bit more on this one. Tell me what you think.
Posted: Dec 17, 2011 9:38 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I never said simply fire everyone. I mean that if people leave then get someone who gives a shit. I never said simply fire everyone. I mean that if people leave then get someone who gives a shit.
Posted: Dec 18, 2011 11:07 AM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

Abomination94 wrote on Dec 17th, 2011 at 4:38pm :
Outbreak of Evil cover is up, same story as before. I tried to vary my vocals a bit more on this one. Tell me what you think.

Listened to both of those covers and they're quite good, better than my playing anyway. Only thing I would say, is tone down the shrillness of the vocals abit, just so you don't destroy your larynx.
[QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2011-12-17 16:38:13']Outbreak of Evil cover is up, same story as before. I tried to vary my vocals a bit more on this one. Tell me what you think.[/QUOTE] Listened to both of those covers and they're quite good, better than my playing anyway. Only thing I would say, is tone down the shrillness of the vocals abit, just so you don't destroy your larynx.
Posted: Dec 18, 2011 8:31 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Just out of curiosity, to the guys who do vocals in here, does it hurt? Just out of curiosity, to the guys who do vocals in here, does it hurt?
Posted: Dec 18, 2011 9:31 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

MC Lukesta wrote on Dec 18th, 2011 at 3:31pm :
Abomination94 wrote on Dec 17th, 2011 at 4:38pm :
Outbreak of Evil cover is up, same story as before. I tried to vary my vocals a bit more on this one. Tell me what you think.
Listened to both of those covers and they're quite good, better than my playing anyway. Only thing I would say, is tone down the shrillness of the vocals abit, just so you don't destroy your larynx.


Thanks for the compliment. Yeah, people have said they're pretty screechy, it doesn't hurt at all so hopefully my larynx will remain intact :p

@Sanitarium91, Not if you do it right. Whether or not I'm doing them right is debateable I guess but I don;t get any pain so ...
[QUOTE u='MC Lukesta' d='2011-12-18 15:31:54'][QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2011-12-17 16:38:13']Outbreak of Evil cover is up, same story as before. I tried to vary my vocals a bit more on this one. Tell me what you think.[/QUOTE] Listened to both of those covers and they're quite good, better than my playing anyway. Only thing I would say, is tone down the shrillness of the vocals abit, just so you don't destroy your larynx.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the compliment. Yeah, people have said they're pretty screechy, it doesn't hurt at all so hopefully my larynx will remain intact :p @Sanitarium91, Not if you do it right. Whether or not I'm doing them right is debateable I guess but I don;t get any pain so ...
Posted: Dec 18, 2011 11:21 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Take the power from your gut, never manipulate your throat or you'll sound like me. i.e. rubbish Take the power from your gut, never manipulate your throat or you'll sound like me. i.e. rubbish
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 1:31 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Maybe you should listen first :p

Seriously though, your right, I don't rteally tighten my throat or anything I sort of just change my voice. it's hard to explain. Could someone please give me a run through on diaphram use? Cause I really don't know how and I need some tips.
Maybe you should listen first :p Seriously though, your right, I don't rteally tighten my throat or anything I sort of just change my voice. it's hard to explain. Could someone please give me a run through on diaphram use? Cause I really don't know how and I need some tips.
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 5:10 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

If you can do them for an hour without ending up with a sore throat, I would say you're most certainly doing it right. I can't though. Well, sometimes I don't have problems, but sometimes it's just not working. I think it has to do with my energy level. Like in our last gig, I had no problems whatsoever, cause I was sort of pumped enough. Another possible explanation is that my technique sort of varies from time to time since I don't do it very often. I'm pretty sure it's a combination of these factors.

I'm just so confused as to how everyone else say they're able to produce harsh vocals absolutely painlessly after such a short time while it's been a long process for me - and I still don't quite have it. Also, inb4 "do it like this", I've heard enough of that without getting to my ultimate goal - no pain. I just need to find it myself.
If you can do them for an hour without ending up with a sore throat, I would say you're most certainly doing it right. I can't though. Well, sometimes I don't have problems, but sometimes it's just not working. I think it has to do with my energy level. Like in our last gig, I had no problems whatsoever, cause I was sort of pumped enough. Another possible explanation is that my technique sort of varies from time to time since I don't do it very often. I'm pretty sure it's a combination of these factors. I'm just so confused as to how everyone else say they're able to produce harsh vocals absolutely painlessly after such a short time while it's been a long process for me - and I still don't quite have it. Also, inb4 "do it like this", I've heard enough of that without getting to my ultimate goal - no pain. I just need to find it myself.
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 9:53 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Honestly man, I'm probably the worst person to ask for advice from because what you hear in my covers is just what I've taught myself. All I did was sit in my room and shriek along to various BM bands and for the first 3-4weeks it hurt and sounded like shit and then one day it just started working.

Maybe you should set up a practice schedule for vox if you really want to do them. Set aside something like a half hour a day and just go for it, you might suprise yourself. I did :haha:
Honestly man, I'm probably the worst person to ask for advice from because what you hear in my covers is just what I've taught myself. All I did was sit in my room and shriek along to various BM bands and for the first 3-4weeks it hurt and sounded like shit and then one day it just started working. Maybe you should set up a practice schedule for vox if you really want to do them. Set aside something like a half hour a day and just go for it, you might suprise yourself. I did :haha:
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 9:59 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Regularity with practice is exactly what I need, but fuckin hell... I just need to figure out a place to train in peace. Regularity with practice is exactly what I need, but fuckin hell... I just need to figure out a place to train in peace.
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 3:31 PM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

I only practice when I'm alone in my house, which is rare; therefore I practice rarely. All my practice consists of is singing The Siege by Timeghoul. I only practice when I'm alone in my house, which is rare; therefore I practice rarely. All my practice consists of is singing The Siege by Timeghoul.
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 3:44 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

I'd love to get some inputs on how to do harsh vocals as it something I like to work on. I'm just too self-conscious to do it in my flat, as the walls are kinda thin... I'd love to get some inputs on how to do harsh vocals as it something I like to work on. I'm just too self-conscious to do it in my flat, as the walls are kinda thin...
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 5:51 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Stop giving a fuck! Stop giving a fuck!
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 5:58 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

It's not as difficult as everyone seems to think it is, but it does require practice and a relatively strict regime. At least at first.

Basically, the vibrations need to come from the bottom of your throat - not the top, as it may sound. Take a deep breath, then push the sound out with your gut like an angry sigh and keep doing that until you have enough power to get a decent growl going. From there on, try your 'a e i o u' rubbish, followed by a few words, then eventually you'll move onto sentences and thusly full songs.

I've got a very deep voice as it is so mine comes quite naturally. One thing I have to say is that cold or hot drinks, as well as alcohol, will NOT help - room temperature water is the only recommendation I can give, and if your voice hurts then give it a rest for two or three days. I'm a bit of a twat and ignore my own advice by downing liquid courage on occasion, but even them I'm extremely precise - two to four single Jack Daniels and cokes, and only if the coke is rather thick and syrupy. Warming up your voice is extremely important too, so humming for an hour or so before and after is beneficial.

Being a chain smoker, I can safely say that smoking doesn't help much - it makes it sound better, because it ruins your throat :p but it obliterates your lungpower, and subsequently tires you out quicker making even one song quite difficult sometimes. I'm able to circumvent it with Vindickator because I do so little, but with other projects I get very hoarse and out of breath quite quickly... 20 to 60 Marlboro Reds a day isn't recommended. But it's relative to the individual I guess.

Seriously though, it's so simple when you know how. All the power comes from the gut, not the throat - that's the basics of it.
It's not as difficult as everyone seems to think it is, but it does require practice and a relatively strict regime. At least at first. Basically, the vibrations need to come from the bottom of your throat - not the top, as it may sound. Take a deep breath, then push the sound out with your gut like an angry sigh and keep doing that until you have enough power to get a decent growl going. From there on, try your 'a e i o u' rubbish, followed by a few words, then eventually you'll move onto sentences and thusly full songs. I've got a very deep voice as it is so mine comes quite naturally. One thing I have to say is that cold or hot drinks, as well as alcohol, will NOT help - room temperature water is the only recommendation I can give, and if your voice hurts then give it a rest for two or three days. I'm a bit of a twat and ignore my own advice by downing liquid courage on occasion, but even them I'm extremely precise - two to four single Jack Daniels and cokes, and only if the coke is rather thick and syrupy. Warming up your voice is extremely important too, so humming for an hour or so before and after is beneficial. Being a chain smoker, I can safely say that smoking doesn't help much - it makes it sound better, because it ruins your throat :p but it obliterates your lungpower, and subsequently tires you out quicker making even one song quite difficult sometimes. I'm able to circumvent it with Vindickator because I do so little, but with other projects I get very hoarse and out of breath quite quickly... 20 to 60 Marlboro Reds a day isn't recommended. But it's relative to the individual I guess. Seriously though, it's so simple when you know how. All the power comes from the gut, not the throat - that's the basics of it.
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 6:08 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

In layman's terms, don't hold back. Don't just force air through your throat, actually try and scream your vocals as hard as your lungs can propel them from your mouth. You'll be surprised at how much more power you gain simply by letting go of that self-conciousness and using some volume.

As for "doing it right", basically yeah, if it hurts you are doing it wrong. Obviously it's GOING to hurt no matter what technique you use if you go for an extended period of time- Personally when we've done 4 or 5 hour practice sessions to prepare for gigs, my voice has been in shreds. But as long as you don't feel like your throat is bleeding after half an hour, you're probably OK.

Smokes, alcohol and soft drinks tend to be utterly terrible for your voice, and I'd advise you to stay away. But then, our practice sessions usually burn through at least 8 cans of Monster, a pack of Marlboros and a few pints of beer, so take that how you will.
In layman's terms, don't hold back. Don't just force air through your throat, actually try and scream your vocals as hard as your lungs can propel them from your mouth. You'll be surprised at how much more power you gain simply by letting go of that self-conciousness and using some volume.
 
As for "doing it right", basically yeah, if it hurts you are doing it wrong. Obviously it's GOING to hurt no matter what technique you use if you go for an extended period of time- Personally when we've done 4 or 5 hour practice sessions to prepare for gigs, my voice has been in shreds. But as long as you don't feel like your throat is bleeding after half an hour, you're probably OK.
 
Smokes, alcohol and soft drinks tend to be utterly terrible for your voice, and I'd advise you to stay away. But then, our practice sessions usually burn through at least 8 cans of Monster, a pack of Marlboros and a few pints of beer, so take that how you will.
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 9:32 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Abomination94 wrote on Dec 19th, 2011 at 12:58pm :

Stop giving a fuck!
I'm trying! I'm working through years of decent up-bringing and christian values here. Takes a while!

What you're saying makes sense and it doesn't sound as if I'm too far off when it comes to technique. That's only on a theoretical level of course, as I've had very little practise. New years resolution from last year of getting five songs done this year certainly didn't pan out...
[QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2011-12-19 12:58:40']
Stop giving a fuck![/QUOTE] I'm trying! I'm working through years of decent up-bringing and christian values here. Takes a while!

What you're saying makes sense and it doesn't sound as if I'm too far off when it comes to technique. That's only on a theoretical level of course, as I've had very little practise. New years resolution from last year of getting five songs done this year certainly didn't pan out...
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 9:51 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Verm, bear in mind that we power through sugary shit and countless smokes because of our contract with the devil himself. Verm, bear in mind that we power through sugary shit and countless smokes because of our contract with the devil himself.
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 10:22 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

So any drinking at all is bad for your vocals? Beause I drink every weekend and occasionally on week nights, and I smoke like a train (pot too). Not quite as much as you though Dave! 60 smokes a day! Fuck!

I always drink warm water before I start at least ...
So any drinking at all is bad for your vocals? Beause I drink every weekend and occasionally on week nights, and I smoke like a train (pot too). Not quite as much as you though Dave! 60 smokes a day! Fuck! I always drink warm water before I start at least ...
Posted: Dec 20, 2011 4:49 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Don't be ridiculous, of course you're allowed to drink! Just limit it strictly when you've got to do a show or whatnot. An no, I can smoke UP to 60 a day if I decide I hate everything that day.

Some Vindickator business today (i.e. pub for eight hours) so we've gone over damn near everything. SHit rules.
Don't be ridiculous, of course you're allowed to drink! Just limit it strictly when you've got to do a show or whatnot. An no, I can smoke UP to 60 a day if I decide I hate everything that day. Some Vindickator business today (i.e. pub for eight hours) so we've gone over damn near everything. SHit rules.
Posted: Dec 21, 2011 1:05 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

I hate everything every day and still can't smoke that much :haha: I probably average about 25 a day. But I smoke pouches so that's a bit different. If I could afford tailor mades then Marlboros would be all I smoked, you have a good taste in ciggys Mr. Postman.

Tell us about the Vindicator business! Or is it secret?
I hate everything every day and still can't smoke that much :haha: I probably average about 25 a day. But I smoke pouches so that's a bit different. If I could afford tailor mades then Marlboros would be all I smoked, you have a good taste in ciggys Mr. Postman. Tell us about the Vindicator business! Or is it secret?
Posted: Dec 21, 2011 4:46 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Nah, just went over song ideas, lyrical ideas, arrangements, tracklistings, bonus tracks, setlists, promotional campaigns etc. Typical band stuff.

Plus a few things that I won't give away :p
Nah, just went over song ideas, lyrical ideas, arrangements, tracklistings, bonus tracks, setlists, promotional campaigns etc. Typical band stuff. Plus a few things that I won't give away :p
Posted: Dec 21, 2011 6:33 AM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

Senor Kristian wrote on Dec 19th, 2011 at 4:51pm :
[QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2011-12-19 12:58:40']
Stop giving a fuck!
I'm trying! I'm working through years of decent up-bringing and christian values here.QUOTE]
Hahaha, same!
Also, I read somewhere that milk causes a large buildup of phlegm, which is upposedly bad for growling. Any truth to this?
[QUOTE u='Senor Kristian' d='2011-12-19 16:51:22'][QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2011-12-19 12:58:40']
Stop giving a fuck![/QUOTE] I'm trying! I'm working through years of decent up-bringing and christian values here.QUOTE] Hahaha, same! Also, I read somewhere that milk causes a large buildup of phlegm, which is upposedly bad for growling. Any truth to this?
Posted: Dec 21, 2011 4:12 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Yes that's true, I used to think that was a good thing :haha: Yes that's true, I used to think that was a good thing :haha:
Posted: Dec 21, 2011 6:33 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Fuck it, a decent upbringing and Christian values can do a lot for you.

If it wasn't for the fact I was brainwashed as a child, I wouldn't hate religion anywhere near as vehemently as I do today. My god-bothering aunt used to take me to church all the time when I was a kid and had to stay with her. Hated every minute of it because I'd rather be at home playing Tekken or something, and instead these people were trying to fill my mind with such insidious nonsense.

Nowadays I find myself wearing inverted crosses and pentagrams simply to piss Christians off. In fact at work today some old lady gave me a leaflet from her church, apparently out of concern for my damned heretical soul :haha:

TL;DR Gives you good shit to write songs about.
Fuck it, a decent upbringing and Christian values can do a lot for you. If it wasn't for the fact I was brainwashed as a child, I wouldn't hate religion anywhere near as vehemently as I do today. My god-bothering aunt used to take me to church all the time when I was a kid and had to stay with her. Hated every minute of it because I'd rather be at home playing Tekken or something, and instead these people were trying to fill my mind with such insidious nonsense. Nowadays I find myself wearing inverted crosses and pentagrams simply to piss Christians off. In fact at work today some old lady gave me a leaflet from her church, apparently out of concern for my damned heretical soul :haha: TL;DR Gives you good shit to write songs about.
Posted: Dec 21, 2011 8:56 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I might play Tekken today actually... I might play Tekken today actually...
Posted: Dec 22, 2011 11:03 AM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

Did any of you guys go to faith schools? Cause I did and in RE (religious education) we were practically given reasons why God can't exist. Did any of you guys go to faith schools? Cause I did and in RE (religious education) we were practically given reasons why God can't exist.
Posted: Dec 22, 2011 3:34 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

I never had a Christian upbringing, luckily my parents are atheist. For my first 5 years at primary school we had religious education though, which I find extremely fucked up. Filling young, impressionalbe childrens minds with such bullshit and conditioning their minds from a very early age. Great way to begin indoctrinating them into our shitty society. Now I'm like you Verm, undying hatred for Christian scum. I never had a Christian upbringing, luckily my parents are atheist. For my first 5 years at primary school we had religious education though, which I find extremely fucked up. Filling young, impressionalbe childrens minds with such bullshit and conditioning their minds from a very early age. Great way to begin indoctrinating them into our shitty society. Now I'm like you Verm, undying hatred for Christian scum.
Posted: Dec 22, 2011 6:33 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Indeed. (Organised) Religion needs to die. Look at the Middle East. Indeed. (Organised) Religion needs to die. Look at the Middle East.
Posted: Dec 22, 2011 9:54 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Indeed. Looking at the Middle East, it's like some stupid time paradox where there are people with minds from a thousand years in the past. Religion should be a strictly private matter. Indeed. Looking at the Middle East, it's like some stupid time paradox where there are people with minds from a thousand years in the past. Religion should be a strictly private matter.
Posted: Dec 22, 2011 10:33 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Not to mention the fact that you'd have to have the IQ of a prawn sandwich to actually beleive in that crap. Not to mention the fact that you'd have to have the IQ of a prawn sandwich to actually beleive in that crap.
Posted: Dec 23, 2011 4:37 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

^I think that theory could be dismissed rather quickly.

Smart people can fear the unknown as well you know.
^I think that theory could be dismissed rather quickly. Smart people can fear the unknown as well you know.
Posted: Dec 23, 2011 11:11 PM - Quote - Report!

BlackThrash

whats this... Religious Bantering

I shall not gives a shit, for I am Hindu :D

anyways, I talked to by band, and after a heated argument and hurtful remark throwing, and several case of beer we finally came agreement to stay together.

The Guitarist who has the personal issues is gonna drop out for lil bit until thing start getting better for him.

for the rest of us we accepted our defrences, also We are getting an actual drummer (yeah I forgot to mention that my band only had one OFFICIAL drummer, and he only stayed for like a few months, we've been getting by on favors from people in the small metal scene of Miami)
whats this... Religious Bantering I shall not gives a shit, for I am Hindu :D anyways, I talked to by band, and after a heated argument and hurtful remark throwing, and several case of beer we finally came agreement to stay together. The Guitarist who has the personal issues is gonna drop out for lil bit until thing start getting better for him. for the rest of us we accepted our defrences, also We are getting an actual drummer (yeah I forgot to mention that my band only had one OFFICIAL drummer, and he only stayed for like a few months, we've been getting by on favors from people in the small metal scene of Miami)
Posted: Dec 23, 2011 11:44 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Well I'll be a busy bunny next year. I've got to finish...

The Vindicator album, any any subsequent shindigs (which will remain secret)
The Skullstrm EP
The Bloodbrawl demo and album
The Onslaught tribute
The Hypertension demo
The Sheffield blues-rock record
Organising Full Thrash Assault 2012 and subsequent shindigs (that will remain secret)
All related rehearsals and shows/tours
Job searching

Somehow, I don't think I'll have time for anything else haha
Well I'll be a busy bunny next year. I've got to finish... The Vindicator album, any any subsequent shindigs (which will remain secret) The Skullstrm EP The Bloodbrawl demo and album The Onslaught tribute The Hypertension demo The Sheffield blues-rock record Organising Full Thrash Assault 2012 and subsequent shindigs (that will remain secret) All related rehearsals and shows/tours Job searching Somehow, I don't think I'll have time for anything else haha
Posted: Dec 29, 2011 9:50 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Wow, haven't you got it all planned out... and all I know is that I have band practice today.

Ok, we'll probably record something next year, but everything else remains unknown.
Wow, haven't you got it all planned out... and all I know is that I have band practice today. Ok, we'll probably record something next year, but everything else remains unknown.
Posted: Dec 31, 2011 10:05 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Happy New Year you miserable pack of cunts. Happy New Year you miserable pack of cunts.
Posted: Dec 31, 2011 12:05 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I haven't actually Mr. Severus, I'm just going to TRY :lol:

A happy new rapture to the lot of you. You cunts.
I haven't actually Mr. Severus, I'm just going to TRY :lol: A happy new rapture to the lot of you. You cunts.
Posted: Dec 31, 2011 5:25 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Well yeah haha, I mean, speaking out of my own experience, I'm lucky if I do half the things I'd like to. But I've sort of given up the thought of being super-productive, cause it aint gonna happen for me. :(

So the plan for the coming year is to record with the band, plus a Timecrypt EP/album if I can get drums for it somehow. If none of this happens, I might as well kill myself.
Well yeah haha, I mean, speaking out of my own experience, I'm lucky if I do half the things I'd like to. But I've sort of given up the thought of being super-productive, cause it aint gonna happen for me. :( So the plan for the coming year is to record with the band, plus a Timecrypt EP/album if I can get drums for it somehow. If none of this happens, I might as well kill myself.
Posted: Dec 31, 2011 5:44 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I'm sure Verm or myself will happily prgram some drums for you.

Don't worry about super-productiveness, it's something that you can only do if you're willing to sacrifice relaxation... which most people aren't,. For this year, I intend to finish as much as possible. I probably won't, but I'll fucking try.
I'm sure Verm or myself will happily prgram some drums for you. Don't worry about super-productiveness, it's something that you can only do if you're willing to sacrifice relaxation... which most people aren't,. For this year, I intend to finish as much as possible. I probably won't, but I'll fucking try.
Posted: Dec 31, 2011 6:18 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Might have EZ drummer at school, so I might be able to program them myself. :) Might have EZ drummer at school, so I might be able to program them myself. :)
Posted: Dec 31, 2011 6:27 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Well let me know :) Well let me know :)
Posted: Dec 31, 2011 8:00 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Also, Vindicator finally have a vaguely normal URL again at http://www.facebook.com/vindicatorukofficial

we couldn't get 'vindicatoruk' back. FB admins have royally fucked us on this.
Also, Vindicator finally have a vaguely normal URL again at http://www.facebook.com/vindicatorukofficial we couldn't get 'vindicatoruk' back. FB admins have royally fucked us on this.
Posted: Jan 3, 2012 12:59 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

You know what though, Dave? I don't think anyone gives a shit. I know I don't.

Fuck Facebook. We'll start our own social media revolution.
You know what though, Dave? I don't think anyone gives a shit. I know I don't.

Fuck Facebook. We'll start our own social media revolution.
Posted: Jan 3, 2012 7:18 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Nigh swan. We need to get an official website. Nigh swan. We need to get an official website.
Posted: Jan 3, 2012 7:40 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Weren't we already kinda doing that a while back? Whatever happened to that? Weren't we already kinda doing that a while back? Whatever happened to that?
Posted: Jan 3, 2012 9:36 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Maybe you gave up, having to fight for rights for the domain "vindicator.com" with these guys: http://www.vindy.com/
Or maybe you fought these guys: http://www.vindicator.co.uk/

Also: http://vindicator.us/
Maybe you gave up, having to fight for rights for the domain "vindicator.com" with these guys: http://www.vindy.com/
Or maybe you fought these guys: http://www.vindicator.co.uk/

Also: http://vindicator.us/
Posted: Jan 3, 2012 10:56 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Ha, I'm not saddened at all by the fact all those domains are taken.

Instead, I am glad that the US Vindicator can't have their webpage because of an EVE Online corporation. Fantastic.
Ha, I'm not saddened at all by the fact all those domains are taken. Instead, I am glad that the US Vindicator can't have their webpage because of an EVE Online corporation. Fantastic.
Posted: Jan 3, 2012 11:14 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Facebook's just the way of the day, no getting round that atm. Even if it will probably eventually turn out to simply be a way to monitor people haha. TO THE CONSPIRACY THEORY-MOBILE! Facebook's just the way of the day, no getting round that atm. Even if it will probably eventually turn out to simply be a way to monitor people haha. TO THE CONSPIRACY THEORY-MOBILE!
Posted: Jan 3, 2012 11:58 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Yeah, my fat son of a bitch nephew was putting a website together. Then he got disowned for being a cunt. Yeah, my fat son of a bitch nephew was putting a website together. Then he got disowned for being a cunt.
Posted: Jan 4, 2012 2:32 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

postmortem2006 wrote on Jan 3rd, 2012 at 9:32pm :
Yeah, my fat son of a bitch nephew was putting a website together. Then he got disowned for being a cunt.


:haha: What??
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2012-01-03 21:32:41']Yeah, my fat son of a bitch nephew was putting a website together. Then he got disowned for being a cunt.[/QUOTE] :haha: What??
Posted: Jan 4, 2012 9:01 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Sanitarium91 wrote on Jan 3rd, 2012 at 6:58pm :
Facebook's just the way of the day, no getting round that atm. Even if it will probably eventually turn out to simply be a way to monitor people haha. TO THE CONSPIRACY THEORY-MOBILE!

Verm put a link up somewhere where they interviewed some german student, who had asked for all the information Facebook had on him. A total of 1200 pages of data, message logs (also those he'd deleted). All categorized in interests and preferences.
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-01-03 18:58:20']Facebook's just the way of the day, no getting round that atm. Even if it will probably eventually turn out to simply be a way to monitor people haha. TO THE CONSPIRACY THEORY-MOBILE![/QUOTE] Verm put a link up somewhere where they interviewed some german student, who had asked for all the information Facebook had on him. A total of 1200 pages of data, message logs (also those he'd deleted). All categorized in interests and preferences.
Posted: Jan 4, 2012 2:55 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Yeah, I heard that somewhere as well. I reckon it's for advertising purposes, since you technically agree to have your info shared when you use different appliances there (I think, or that's partially why I don't use any). It's fucked up that they have your chats in there as well, who knows what people talk about in there.

Really though, it seems like such an easy way to monitor people that I'm frankly surprised if no such business is/will be going on.
Yeah, I heard that somewhere as well. I reckon it's for advertising purposes, since you technically agree to have your info shared when you use different appliances there (I think, or that's partially why I don't use any). It's fucked up that they have your chats in there as well, who knows what people talk about in there. Really though, it seems like such an easy way to monitor people that I'm frankly surprised if no such business is/will be going on.
Posted: Jan 4, 2012 5:04 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

This is exactly why I don't have one. This is exactly why I don't have one.
Posted: Jan 5, 2012 4:38 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Sanitarium91 wrote on Jan 4th, 2012 at 12:04pm :
It's fucked up that they have your chats in there as well, who knows what people talk about in there.
Ha, yeah, if they read mine they'd have a hell of a time.

Facebook and their privacy policy is something that we should be cautious about, but frankly I don't think we need to be all tinfoil-hat about it. They may know a lot about you, but to put it in perspective they have the same information, photos and freaky cybersex logs of about 5 billion other people too. You're just as anonymous as you are in real life.

Here's that link if anyone wants it- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEC-vk9psTw

Anyway, Google is the truly sinister uber-corporation. They know literally everything about everyone, they are omnipresent, omniscient and virtually the entire first world has become reliant on their services. In other words, they have us by the balls. It's only a matter of time before they start to squeeze.
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-01-04 12:04:49'] It's fucked up that they have your chats in there as well, who knows what people talk about in there.[/QUOTE] Ha, yeah, if they read mine they'd have a hell of a time.

Facebook and their privacy policy is something that we should be cautious about, but frankly I don't think we need to be all tinfoil-hat about it. They may know a lot about you, but to put it in perspective they have the same information, photos and freaky cybersex logs of about 5 billion other people too. You're just as anonymous as you are in real life.

Here's that link if anyone wants it- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEC-vk9psTw

Anyway, Google is the [i]truly[/i] sinister uber-corporation. They know literally everything about everyone, they are omnipresent, omniscient and virtually the entire first world has become reliant on their services. In other words, they have us by the balls. It's only a matter of time before they start to squeeze.
Posted: Jan 5, 2012 10:05 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

:haha:

Well said.
:haha: Well said.
Posted: Jan 5, 2012 10:33 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Who cares. I'm playing Doom. Who cares. I'm playing Doom.
Posted: Jan 6, 2012 6:27 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

I'm playing Dark Forces! I'm playing Dark Forces!
Posted: Jan 6, 2012 11:31 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Jealous. I would love to play Dark Forces again. Jealous. I would love to play Dark Forces again.
Posted: Jan 6, 2012 11:39 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Fuck man, I used to love Dark Forces! I should really buy that again, you can get it for like three quid these days Fuck man, I used to love Dark Forces! I should really buy that again, you can get it for like three quid these days
Posted: Jan 6, 2012 12:09 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

postmortem2006 wrote on Jan 6th, 2012 at 1:27am :
Who cares. I'm playing Doom.


You win, what Doom are you playing?
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2012-01-06 01:27:03']Who cares. I'm playing Doom.[/QUOTE] You win, what Doom are you playing?
Posted: Jan 8, 2012 2:54 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

PSone version, so it's Ultimate Doom and Doom II. fuckyear.jpg PSone version, so it's Ultimate Doom and Doom II. fuckyear.jpg
Posted: Jan 8, 2012 10:15 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Nice, haven't played the PS1 version myself. How does it compare to the PC version? Nice, haven't played the PS1 version myself. How does it compare to the PC version?
Posted: Jan 9, 2012 8:13 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Apart from missing a few enemies and having a shitty ambient soundtrack instead of the rockin' one on PC, it's ace Apart from missing a few enemies and having a shitty ambient soundtrack instead of the rockin' one on PC, it's ace
Posted: Jan 9, 2012 8:51 AM - Quote - Report!

Situacao

Really? Doom without its original soundtrack? That sounds so lame..

Speaking of gaming soundtracks, I woke up with this in my head.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyoMQg3d5cs
Really? Doom without its original soundtrack? That sounds so lame.. Speaking of gaming soundtracks, I woke up with this in my head.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyoMQg3d5cs
Posted: Jan 9, 2012 3:03 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

After a few hours of headache-inducing pondering, I figured out how to use EZ Droommer... at least figured out a way that seems to do the job...

So unto the CRYPT OF TIME!

...or in other words, intense drum programming here I come -_-
After a few hours of headache-inducing pondering, I figured out how to use EZ Droommer... at least figured out a way that seems to do the job... 

So unto the CRYPT OF TIME!

...or in other words, intense drum programming here I come -_-
Posted: Jan 9, 2012 8:16 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I'm spending my day trying to finish writing the remaining Vindickator tracks and failing miserably. Guess it's just one of those days. I'm spending my day trying to finish writing the remaining Vindickator tracks and failing miserably. Guess it's just one of those days.
Posted: Jan 10, 2012 2:35 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

I've found inspiration mostly when I've felt great joy in playing the instrument. I suggest trying to find something that can trigger that instead of just trying to come up with stuff.

Although, need I add, sometimes it's just one of those days.
I've found inspiration mostly when I've felt great joy in playing the instrument. I suggest trying to find something that can trigger that instead of just trying to come up with stuff. Although, need I add, sometimes it's just one of those days.
Posted: Jan 10, 2012 5:37 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Indeed. I'll keep trying. Indeed. I'll keep trying.
Posted: Jan 11, 2012 10:13 AM - Quote - Report!

_harris

Sanitarium91 wrote on Jan 10th, 2012 at 12:37pm :
I've found inspiration mostly when I've felt great joy in playing the instrument. I suggest trying to find something that can trigger that instead of just trying to come up with stuff.

Although, need I add, sometimes it's just one of those days.


yeayh i never set out to write or finish a piece, instead i'll mess around with some old riffs if im in the mood, usually come up with some fresh ideas when you least expect it!! :)

i find if i try too hard it can seem forced, i tend to give up then, otherwise i'll not be 100% happy with the result and start again anyways!
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-01-10 12:37:28']I've found inspiration mostly when I've felt great joy in playing the instrument. I suggest trying to find something that can trigger that instead of just trying to come up with stuff. Although, need I add, sometimes it's just one of those days.[/QUOTE] yeayh i never set out to write or finish a piece, instead i'll mess around with some old riffs if im in the mood, usually come up with some fresh ideas when you least expect it!! :) i find if i try too hard it can seem forced, i tend to give up then, otherwise i'll not be 100% happy with the result and start again anyways!
Posted: Jan 11, 2012 11:13 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Problem is that with Ritual Slaughter, it's the last track we have to finish for the album (not counting bonus tracks). Thusly, I've not only got a deadline but also certain guidelines to stick to (e.g. fast, heavy, 'breakdown'-esque riff near the end, short etc.)

When you have to stick to that shit it becomes difficult
Problem is that with Ritual Slaughter, it's the last track we have to finish for the album (not counting bonus tracks). Thusly, I've not only got a deadline but also certain guidelines to stick to (e.g. fast, heavy, 'breakdown'-esque riff near the end, short etc.) When you have to stick to that shit it becomes difficult
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 11:52 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Well hurry up and give me something, I'm gonna write the thing myself if you don't.

The rest of the album isn't enough work for me, give more more damnit!
Well hurry up and give me something, I'm gonna write the thing myself if you don't. The rest of the album isn't enough work for me, give more more damnit!
Posted: Jan 13, 2012 5:25 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Fuck you. I've only contributed some arrangements, titles and themes so far, let me have my piece!

Also, I'm taking charge of writing Invocation and Thy Flesh Consumed simply because those two are actually further along than RS is.
Fuck you. I've only contributed some arrangements, titles and themes so far, let me have my piece! Also, I'm taking charge of writing Invocation and Thy Flesh Consumed simply because those two are actually further along than RS is.
Posted: Jan 14, 2012 10:50 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Ooh, hogging songs are we? :p:

How many songs will there be on it btw?
Ooh, hogging songs are we? :p: How many songs will there be on it btw?
Posted: Jan 15, 2012 12:13 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Enough.

postmortem2006 wrote on Jan 14th, 2012 at 5:50am :

Also, I'm taking charge of writing Invocation and Thy Flesh Consumed simply because those two are actually further along than RS is.

I wish there was a UG emoticon for *headbutt*
Enough. [QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2012-01-14 05:50:11'] Also, I'm taking charge of writing Invocation and Thy Flesh Consumed simply because those two are actually further along than RS is.[/QUOTE] I wish there was a UG emoticon for *headbutt*
Posted: Jan 15, 2012 2:22 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

u mad?

On a Vindickatorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (RUBBISH) related note, we've got a full feature on DJ Beerman's show on Top Rock Radio (.com). 7 til 8 tonight, British time. Chatrooms and all so I'll be loitering about on there, as will Chris and hopefully ratface.
u mad? On a Vindickatorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (RUBBISH) related note, we've got a full feature on DJ Beerman's show on Top Rock Radio (.com). 7 til 8 tonight, British time. Chatrooms and all so I'll be loitering about on there, as will Chris and hopefully ratface.
Posted: Jan 15, 2012 10:04 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Didn't Chris fuck off to eat and then just never return?

That better have been one epic Sunday dinner. In fact I hope he's still eating it now.
Didn't Chris fuck off to eat and then just never return? That better have been one epic Sunday dinner. In fact I hope he's still eating it now.
Posted: Jan 17, 2012 9:10 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Pretty much hahaha Pretty much hahaha
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 2:49 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

So Vindicator practice is awesome as usual, keeping up our record attendance rates and investing in new business premises heat insulation solutions.

Also happened to fully write and compose Cathedrals of Despair the first time jamming it. Turns out Ryan's new kick drum skin is beastly, so the album's going to sound fucking deadly.

Business as usual, you know.
So Vindicator practice is awesome as usual, keeping up our record attendance rates and investing in new business premises heat insulation solutions. Also happened to fully write and compose Cathedrals of Despair the first time jamming it. Turns out Ryan's new kick drum skin is beastly, so the album's going to sound fucking deadly. Business as usual, you know.
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 12:07 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Blame Sheffield's public transport system. There's no point in me turning up to rehearsal for 20 minutes when I'm full of flu and fail.

Also, send tablature.
Blame Sheffield's public transport system. There's no point in me turning up to rehearsal for 20 minutes when I'm full of flu and fail. Also, send tablature.
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 6:18 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Tabs will be coming soon.

You don't need them urgently anyway, so don't worry. We're not even going to start tracking until we have re-skinned Ryan's remaining drum heads. You won't beleive the difference it has made in the tone and precision of his drumming, it's sounding fantastic.
Tabs will be coming soon. You don't need them urgently anyway, so don't worry. We're not even going to start tracking until we have re-skinned Ryan's remaining drum heads. You won't beleive the difference it has made in the tone and precision of his drumming, it's sounding fantastic.
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 6:36 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

It'll take me a month at minimum to learn the songs, the sooner the better. At the very least it'll put my mind at rest.

Also, whilst you're at it do me a monumental favour and restring/clean my bass before we start tracking (WHEN we start tracking). Clean strings FTW.
It'll take me a month at minimum to learn the songs, the sooner the better. At the very least it'll put my mind at rest. Also, whilst you're at it do me a monumental favour and restring/clean my bass before we start tracking (WHEN we start tracking). Clean strings FTW.
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 9:35 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Bass strings ain't cheap bro.
Bass strings ain't cheap bro.
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 9:58 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Clean strings ftw, indeed. I just don't want to even play with dirty strings and a shitty fretboard. It just feels horrible. Clean strings ftw, indeed. I just don't want to even play with dirty strings and a shitty fretboard. It just feels horrible.
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 11:06 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I'll pay for the damn strings, the fuck do you take me for? I'll pay for the damn strings, the fuck do you take me for?
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 11:46 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Fucking EZ drummer, I'll kill you. Why the fuck does it change the tempo automatically to 120 bpm? I thought I'd figured my way out of having to figure out another thing what with all the drum mapping and tempo tracks (had absolutely zero luck in understanding that shit). So I just put EZ on, went to the groove library, put on my file from my midifiles, and recorded them through a bus on ProTools, and that was all fine and dandy until I needed a tempo that isn't 120. FUCK. Fucking EZ drummer, I'll kill you. Why the fuck does it change the tempo automatically to 120 bpm? I thought I'd figured my way out of having to figure out another thing what with all the drum mapping and tempo tracks (had absolutely zero luck in understanding that shit). So I just put EZ on, went to the groove library, put on my file from my midifiles, and recorded them through a bus on ProTools, and that was all fine and dandy until I needed a tempo that isn't 120. FUCK.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:17 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

You have to set the conductor up to the right tempo. Or if you are using your own midi files, just disable it altogether. You have to set the conductor up to the right tempo. Or if you are using your own midi files, just disable it altogether.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:28 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Ok thanks, man. Ok thanks, man.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:47 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

This is why I hate drum machines. Sadly, they're too easy and accessible to ignore... plus they're easier to get along with than 90% of drummers I've worked with. Ryan being the excluded 10%. This is why I hate drum machines. Sadly, they're too easy and accessible to ignore... plus they're easier to get along with than 90% of drummers I've worked with. Ryan being the excluded 10%.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 2:29 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Drum machines? Easy?

Maybe if you've never tried to do anything but a standard thrash beat with them, sure. Those things are a pain in the ass to work with, at least a real drummer understands instructions given in plain English.
Drum machines? Easy? Maybe if you've never tried to do anything but a standard thrash beat with them, sure. Those things are a pain in the ass to work with, at least a real drummer understands instructions given in plain English.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 9:30 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

No problem with drum beats for me. Well, if GP wouldn't keep refusing to co-operate so often, there wouldn't be. Unfortunately, I've only programmed 4/7 songs and GP crashes 8/10 times I want to copy a section of drums. Not to mention it mostly refuses to start up, even. That's a pain. No problem with drum [i]beats[/i] for me. Well, if GP wouldn't keep refusing to co-operate so often, there wouldn't be. Unfortunately, I've only programmed 4/7 songs and GP crashes 8/10 times I want to copy a section of drums. Not to mention it mostly refuses to start up, even. That's a pain.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 11:07 PM - Quote - Report!

MC Lukesta

I find Addictive Drums easy enough to use.

Vermintide wrote on Jan 24th, 2012 at 4:30pm :
at least a real drummer understands instructions given in plain English.

Ah, but can he follow those instructions perfectly, to the letter?
I find Addictive Drums easy enough to use. [QUOTE u='Vermintide' d='2012-01-24 16:30:52']at least a real drummer understands instructions given in plain English.[/QUOTE] Ah, but can he follow those instructions perfectly, to the letter?
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 5:07 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Touch... but a real drummer can make it groove. If they're good anyway. It's what makes a drummer a drummer and not just a guy who plays drums, imo. Touch... but a real drummer can make it groove. If they're good anyway. It's what makes a drummer a drummer and not just a guy who plays drums, imo.
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 5:52 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Indeed. And telling Ryan "I want a really sick fill after that riff" is far easier than actually writing one. Indeed. And telling Ryan "I want a really sick fill after that riff" is far easier than actually writing one.
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 7:53 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Ryan's awesome, that's why. Ryan's awesome, that's why.
Posted: Jan 26, 2012 12:26 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

So's our drummer. Unfortunately got news that he's moving next summer, so the future of the band is uncertain. But we agreed to hit the studio soon, after one last practice next weekend, so kinda psyched/hopeful atm. Basically, if there's nothing unexpected on our way, phase one (the drums) should be done within February. So's our drummer. Unfortunately got news that he's moving next summer, so the future of the band is uncertain. But we agreed to hit the studio soon, after one last practice next weekend, so kinda psyched/hopeful atm. Basically, if there's nothing unexpected on our way, phase one (the drums) should be done within February.
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 8:30 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

You'll be alright. Persistance, man. You'll be alright. Persistance, man.
Posted: Jan 28, 2012 8:22 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Half the drums recorded. To be continued tomorrow... Half the drums recorded. To be continued tomorrow...
Posted: Feb 17, 2012 10:41 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Cool. Keep us informed! Cool. Keep us informed!
Posted: Feb 18, 2012 12:28 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Good progress this weekend, drums for all songs (10), bass for 5. Had to do the drums with limited time on our hands so no perfect results, but it'll have to do. Rest of the stuff shall be recorded within about a month or so. Need to get me a good amp from somewhere before I start recording. Good progress this weekend, drums for all songs (10), bass for 5. Had to do the drums with limited time on our hands so no perfect results, but it'll have to do. Rest of the stuff shall be recorded within about a month or so. Need to get me a good amp from somewhere before I start recording.
Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:42 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

My amp has decided to die. Think the fuse has gone.. unhappy Dave. My amp has decided to die. Think the fuse has gone.. unhappy Dave.
Posted: Feb 20, 2012 3:39 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Try a different kettle lead. If that doesn't fix it then it isn't THAT fuse and if it's not THAT fuse, then yes, you do want to be worried.

Luckily you kept hold of your Blackstar 5-year warranty card... Right?
Try a different kettle lead. If that doesn't fix it then it isn't THAT fuse and if it's not THAT fuse, then yes, you do want to be worried. Luckily you kept hold of your Blackstar 5-year warranty card... Right?
Posted: Feb 20, 2012 6:01 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Just played along to the drum tracks, shit's so cash.

Also, probably recording the guitars with a Randall rh 100, the one I played on that gig of ours. It's a solid-state, but I think it sounds better than the Marshall Valvestate 100 combo at the studio. I guess I'll have to compare when I get them to the studio.
Just played along to the drum tracks, shit's so cash. Also, probably recording the guitars with a Randall rh 100, the one I played on that gig of ours. It's a solid-state, but I think it sounds better than the Marshall Valvestate 100 combo at the studio. I guess I'll have to compare when I get them to the studio.
Posted: Feb 20, 2012 8:01 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Should still have it somewhere. But seriously, why me? Should still have it somewhere. But seriously, why me?
Posted: Feb 21, 2012 3:15 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Test recording vox, and even unprocessed this sounds way less horrible than I expected. A proper mic does wonders. Obviously not recording vocals until we have the guitars, but this was a nice surprise. Getting a satisfactory guitar sound will probably be the biggest issue after all, unless my voice fails on me when I'm actually recording haha.

What's the situation with Black Sacrament btw?
Test recording vox, and even unprocessed this sounds way less horrible than I expected. A proper mic does wonders. Obviously not recording vocals until we have the guitars, but this was a nice surprise. Getting a satisfactory guitar sound will probably be the biggest issue after all, unless my voice fails on me when I'm actually recording haha. What's the situation with Black Sacrament btw?
Posted: Feb 22, 2012 6:17 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Getting there.

Still in the writing stage, because I'm a bloody perfectionist, and we're being rather (very, in fact) ambitious. Shame we all have jobs and the like or it would be coming on much quicker, but there you are.

But what we have so far is quite awesome. We'll be premiering a ton of new stuff at Full Thrash Assault, so there's the best place to be if you wanna hear it ;)
Getting there. Still in the writing stage, because I'm a bloody perfectionist, and we're being rather (very, in fact) ambitious. Shame we all have jobs and the like or it would be coming on much quicker, but there you are. But what we have so far is quite awesome. We'll be premiering a ton of new stuff at Full Thrash Assault, so there's the best place to be if you wanna hear it ;)
Posted: Feb 22, 2012 10:40 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Get some footage or something then! Get some footage or something then!
Posted: Feb 22, 2012 11:35 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Vermintide wrote on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 5:40pm :
But what we have so far is quite awesome. We'll be premiering a ton of new stuff at Full Thrash Assault, so there's the best place to be if you wanna hear it ;)

It will also be a once in a lifetime opportunity of seeing a dane getting pissed beyond belief, and annoy strangers till the point he gets stabbed!

If only said dane could cut down on the night-out expenses and get those planetickets sorted.
[QUOTE u='Vermintide' d='2012-02-22 17:40:08'] But what we have so far is quite awesome. We'll be premiering a ton of new stuff at Full Thrash Assault, so there's the best place to be if you wanna hear it ;)[/QUOTE]
It will also be a once in a lifetime opportunity of seeing a dane getting pissed beyond belief, and annoy strangers till the point he gets stabbed!

If only said dane could cut down on the night-out expenses and get those planetickets sorted.
Posted: Feb 23, 2012 12:08 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Ambitious is a fucking understatement in at least one case. That said, it's probably a good thing - if we just released Outbreak In Leather Mk.2 then it wouldn't be worth shit, despite still being better than most bands' outputs :p But yeah, what I've heard so far has been so unrelentingly badass that it's slain four balrogs. FTA will be bloody special, that's for sure. As for any form of documentation, I think we're saving that for recording... maybe. I don't know, we can never make our minds up.

Kristian, you needn't fear of accomodation and the like at least :)
Ambitious is a fucking understatement in at least one case. That said, it's probably a good thing - if we just released Outbreak In Leather Mk.2 then it wouldn't be worth shit, despite still being better than most bands' outputs :p But yeah, what I've heard so far has been so unrelentingly badass that it's slain four balrogs. FTA will be bloody special, that's for sure. As for any form of documentation, I think we're saving that for recording... maybe. I don't know, we can never make our minds up.

Kristian, you needn't fear of accomodation and the like at least :)
Posted: Feb 23, 2012 11:00 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Sanitarium91 wrote on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 6:35pm :
Get some footage or something then!

The Snooty Fox stream all their gigs live online anyway brah, so you can always watch.

Besides that we do have some special plans involving recording the gig, but I won't give too much away. More on that once it's confirmed.
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-02-22 18:35:06']Get some footage or something then![/QUOTE] The Snooty Fox stream all their gigs live online anyway brah, so you can always watch. Besides that we do have some special plans involving recording the gig, but I won't give too much away. More on that once it's confirmed.
Posted: Feb 29, 2012 2:02 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

You'll need to inform me of these 'special plans' since I can't fucking remember much of this crap You'll need to inform me of these 'special plans' since I can't fucking remember much of this crap
Posted: Mar 1, 2012 2:29 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Seems like I'll be recording all the guitars for the album myself. Starting next week, so recording might be done sooner than expected.

How do you go about recording two guitars Verm? Do you just use the same tone for both or two very different tones, or two similar tones? And just with a single sm57?
Seems like I'll be recording all the guitars for the album myself. Starting next week, so recording might be done sooner than expected. How do you go about recording two guitars Verm? Do you just use the same tone for both or two very different tones, or two similar tones? And just with a single sm57?
Posted: Mar 4, 2012 3:24 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

He uses two mics for each guitar, gives us something more to work with in terms of tone. Also, it sounds fucking immense.

You need to use slightly different tones - one needs to be more high-end and trebly than the other. All about contrast.
He uses two mics for each guitar, gives us something more to work with in terms of tone. Also, it sounds fucking immense. You need to use slightly different tones - one needs to be more high-end and trebly than the other. All about contrast.
Posted: Mar 4, 2012 3:39 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Yeah, I figured you'd want to have two contrasting tones. But I've been thinking of using two mics as well, so I guess I'll probably go with that then. Yeah, I figured you'd want to have two contrasting tones. But I've been thinking of using two mics as well, so I guess I'll probably go with that then.
Posted: Mar 4, 2012 3:58 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Worth looking into for sure. Worth looking into for sure.
Posted: Mar 4, 2012 4:04 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Any other advice like what kind of space should it be recorded in? Do I want to utilize plywood/foams/other or just have an open space? The studio room is very, how should I put it... "cushioned" in that there's basically no echo whatsoever. So I'm not sure how much I can manipulate the room ambiance.

Properly recording guitars is something I really need more experience on.
Any other advice like what kind of space should it be recorded in? Do I want to utilize plywood/foams/other or just have an open space? The studio room is very, how should I put it... "cushioned" in that there's basically no echo whatsoever. So I'm not sure how much I can manipulate the room ambiance. Properly recording guitars is something I really need more experience on.
Posted: Mar 4, 2012 5:31 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Verm will give you a better idea about that, but I've never had any problems with any environment. Verm will give you a better idea about that, but I've never had any problems with any environment.
Posted: Mar 4, 2012 6:30 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Daaamn guys, shit is off the hook. I'll have to wait until tomorrow and listen with fresh ears, but tracked my rhythm parts on a few songs and I'm pretty pumped now that I'm listening to it. Daaamn guys, shit is off the hook. I'll have to wait until tomorrow and listen with fresh ears, but tracked my rhythm parts on a few songs and I'm pretty pumped now that I'm listening to it.
Posted: Mar 5, 2012 8:54 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Can't wait to dive into the Vindicator album myself actually. Insatiable urge for recording. Can't wait to dive into the Vindicator album myself actually. Insatiable urge for recording.
Posted: Mar 7, 2012 1:09 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Out of curiosity, how do you guys write? Do you get an idea in your head then pick up the guitar or just jam until you play something cool? Out of curiosity, how do you guys write? Do you get an idea in your head then pick up the guitar or just jam until you play something cool?
Posted: Mar 7, 2012 6:30 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Verm pretty much just writes something and goes 'this is now *x*'. Though a few of the titles on the album were old/stoned ideas I had that we worked off - that's how I write, anyway. I get the title first so that I have something to work towards, but any way works really.

We don't really get together and write too much during rehearsals though. It does happen, but for the most part we just leave it up to Verm and demand tabs when he's got it down. When you've got deadlines to meet (like we do now), there's no time to write everything out in rehearsal. It has to be learnt in your spare time and then formally rehearsed for live performances at actual practice sessions. Though again, that only applies when you're in our current position of being totally unprefuckingpared for your upcoming duties.
Verm pretty much just writes something and goes 'this is now *x*'. Though a few of the titles on the album were old/stoned ideas I had that we worked off - that's how I write, anyway. I get the title first so that I have something to work towards, but any way works really. We don't really get together and write too much during rehearsals though. It does happen, but for the most part we just leave it up to Verm and demand tabs when he's got it down. When you've got deadlines to meet (like we do now), there's no time to write everything out in rehearsal. It has to be learnt in your spare time and then formally rehearsed for live performances at actual practice sessions. Though again, that only applies when you're in our current position of being totally unprefuckingpared for your upcoming duties.
Posted: Mar 7, 2012 6:34 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

I guess mostly I just get an idea while jamming. Sometimes I find a cool chord progression and start building from that, sometimes from a riff. But I do what Dave does sometimes as well. In fact, I've written a few songs for a concept instrumental album project to which I drew inspiration from titles. That project is way into the future if I ever get to finish it though. I guess mostly I just get an idea while jamming. Sometimes I find a cool chord progression and start building from that, sometimes from a riff. But I do what Dave does sometimes as well. In fact, I've written a few songs for a concept instrumental album project to which I drew inspiration from titles. That project is way into the future if I ever get to finish it though.
Posted: Mar 7, 2012 10:00 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I have so many things I want to do that I doubt I'll ever be creatively fulfilled. I have so many things I want to do that I doubt I'll ever be creatively fulfilled.
Posted: Mar 7, 2012 10:50 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Yeah same here. There's so many different styles I want to try that I couldn't possibly incorporate into the one band.

Is there a difference between chord progressions and riffs? And how do you know what notes fit into a particular key signiture?

(as you may have guessed, I'm still a guitar noob and have very little theory knowledge)
Yeah same here. There's so many different styles I want to try that I couldn't possibly incorporate into the one band. Is there a difference between chord progressions and riffs? And how do you know what notes fit into a particular key signiture? (as you may have guessed, I'm still a guitar noob and have very little theory knowledge)
Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:19 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Ear training helps. Most of it is common sense.

As for Chord progressions and riffs, I used to think they were different but apparently it's pretty much in the same catagory.
Ear training helps. Most of it is common sense. As for Chord progressions and riffs, I used to think they were different but apparently it's pretty much in the same catagory.
Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:59 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

What do mean by common sense? Do you mean listening and sounding what notes sound good together or what? What do mean by common sense? Do you mean listening and sounding what notes sound good together or what?
Posted: Mar 8, 2012 4:42 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

If you need to ask that, you probably shouldn't be doing music. If you need to ask that, you probably shouldn't be doing music.
Posted: Mar 8, 2012 11:25 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Aww, don't say that Dave.
Abomination94 wrote on Mar 7th, 2012 at 6:19pm :
Is there a difference between chord progressions and riffs? And how do you know what notes fit into a particular key signiture?

Theoretically chord progressions use notes of the given key (in practice, nothing is basically wrong, so keep that in mind). So, if it was in A minor, the chords would all have some of these notes: A B C D E F G (3 of them, if they're all just triads) (Also notice that those notes are the A minor scale). In A minor the triads go like this: ACE, BDF, CEG, DFA, EGB, FAC, GBD. These are called modes, and as you can see there are seven of them.

Anyway, instead of putting on a theory lesson (though that pretty much was one) I recommend getting to know where the notes are on your fretboard and the abundant lessons on the web will reveal the cryptic information that is theory to you much more easily.

The reason I mentioned chord progressions is because I write a lot of clean stuff as well, but I never think of that stuff I just talked about when I write. And I tend to write things that I can't really explain with theory, because... well, if you write by those triads I mentioned for example, it often sounds a bit too dull and generic.

Generic riffs often use only the notes of the given key, but if you just pedal on the E all the time, it's not much of a progression, is it? :p: Chord progressions can be in the form of riffs, but a riff isn't necessarily a chord progression. I guess a riff is usually more of a melodic sequence repeated over and over.

Tl;dr: You don't need theory to write, but it gives you a bit of direction if you're lost. And since I assume we're talking metal here, you should do fine with writing just by ear.
Aww, don't say that Dave. [QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2012-03-07 18:19:03']Is there a difference between chord progressions and riffs? And how do you know what notes fit into a particular key signiture?[/QUOTE] [b]Theoretically[/b] chord progressions use notes of the given key (in practice, nothing is basically wrong, so keep that in mind). So, if it was in A minor, the chords would all have some of these notes: A B C D E F G (3 of them, if they're all just triads) (Also notice that those notes are the A minor scale). In A minor the triads go like this: ACE, BDF, CEG, DFA, EGB, FAC, GBD. These are called modes, and as you can see there are seven of them. Anyway, instead of putting on a theory lesson (though that pretty much was one) I recommend getting to know where the notes are on your fretboard and the abundant lessons on the web will reveal the cryptic information that is theory to you much more easily. The reason I mentioned chord progressions is because I write a lot of clean stuff as well, but I never think of that stuff I just talked about when I write. And I tend to write things that I can't really explain with theory, because... well, if you write by those triads I mentioned for example, it often sounds a bit too dull and generic. Generic riffs often use only the notes of the given key, but if you just pedal on the E all the time, it's not much of a progression, is it? :p: Chord progressions can be in the form of riffs, but a riff isn't necessarily a chord progression. I guess a riff is usually more of a melodic sequence repeated over and over. Tl;dr: You don't need theory to write, but it gives you a bit of direction if you're lost. And since I assume we're talking metal here, you should do fine with writing just by ear.
Posted: Mar 8, 2012 4:06 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

It shouldn't have to be explained. It shouldn't have to be explained.
Posted: Mar 9, 2012 2:53 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

postmortem2006 wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 9:53pm :
It shouldn't have to be explained.


Chiiilll Winston.

Sanitarium91 wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:06am :
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Cheers man, that was helpful. Are there any websites with good ear training vids?
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2012-03-08 21:53:40']It shouldn't have to be explained.[/QUOTE] Chiiilll Winston. [QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-03-08 11:06:08']text wall[/QUOTE] Cheers man, that was helpful. Are there any websites with good ear training vids?
Posted: Mar 9, 2012 6:03 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Ear training isn't exactly something you can learn from a video. It just requires patience and some goddamn common sense. Ear training isn't exactly something you can learn from a video. It just requires patience and some goddamn common sense.
Posted: Mar 9, 2012 6:37 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Well then, what can I do? Some excercises or something? Well then, what can I do? Some excercises or something?
Posted: Mar 10, 2012 8:32 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Jesus fucking Christ...

Listen to the bottom E in each tuning. You can figure it out from there, if you can't then just stop asking retarded goddamn questions. Fucking hell, it's not difficult. If you were asking about scales or some shit then I could understand, but this? What are you, fucking four?

God I hate you.
Jesus fucking Christ... Listen to the bottom E in each tuning. You can figure it out from there, if you can't then just stop asking retarded goddamn questions. Fucking hell, it's not difficult. If you were asking about scales or some shit then I could understand, but this? What are you, fucking four? God I hate you.
Posted: Mar 10, 2012 9:36 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

:haha: I literally burst out laughing reading that (also still slightly drunk). No disrespect to either of you but that last comment completely caught me off guard. :haha: I literally burst out laughing reading that (also still slightly drunk). No disrespect to either of you but that last comment completely caught me off guard.
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Sanitarium91

Abomination94 wrote on Mar 10th, 2012 at 3:32am :
Well then, what can I do? Some excercises or something?
If you want to develop a better ear, singing helps. Melodies n shit. Then trying to play that melody on your instrument. But that's not very metal, is it?
[QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2012-03-10 03:32:52']Well then, what can I do? Some excercises or something?[/QUOTE]If you want to develop a better ear, singing helps. Melodies n shit. Then trying to play that melody on your instrument. But that's not very metal, is it?
Posted: Mar 10, 2012 1:12 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Alternatively, stop asking retarded questions on my forum and use Google or something.

This is why I hate New Zealanders. Bunch of morons. Okay, I'm taking my rage out on you somewhat but fuck you, you deserve it.
Alternatively, stop asking retarded questions on my forum and use Google or something. This is why I hate New Zealanders. Bunch of morons. Okay, I'm taking my rage out on you somewhat but fuck you, you deserve it.
Posted: Mar 11, 2012 12:40 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

When you're done bitching....

Sanitarium91 wrote on Mar 10th, 2012 at 8:12am :
Abomination94 wrote on Mar 10th, 2012 at 3:32am :
Well then, what can I do? Some excercises or something?
If you want to develop a better ear, singing helps. Melodies n shit. Then trying to play that melody on your instrument. But that's not very metal, is it?


That hardly matters, I'm sure whatever I learn can be applied to metal anyway. Thanks.
When you're done bitching.... [QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-03-10 08:12:30'][QUOTE u='Abomination94' d='2012-03-10 03:32:52']Well then, what can I do? Some excercises or something?[/QUOTE]If you want to develop a better ear, singing helps. Melodies n shit. Then trying to play that melody on your instrument. But that's not very metal, is it?[/QUOTE] That hardly matters, I'm sure whatever I learn can be applied to metal anyway. Thanks.
Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:20 PM - Quote - Report!

_harris

just learn loads of slayer and copy their riffs! works for loads of other bands just learn loads of slayer and copy their riffs! works for loads of other bands
Posted: Mar 13, 2012 8:35 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Ok, good idea! Ok, good idea!
Posted: Mar 14, 2012 10:38 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Sanitarium91 wrote on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 1:17pm :
Test recording vox, and even unprocessed this sounds way less horrible than I expected. A proper mic does wonders. Obviously not recording vocals until we have the guitars, but this was a nice surprise.
Goddamnit I should've saved the "test vox". I think they might've sounded better than now that I'm actually recording, but oh well, I'll never know I guess. Did 5 songs today, my voice is pretty fucked. I better take a day off tomorrow, maybe get on with the solos, since they're all that's left, instrument-wise. If all goes as planned, everything should be recorded within a week.
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-02-22 13:17:34']Test recording vox, and even unprocessed this sounds way less horrible than I expected. A proper mic does wonders. Obviously not recording vocals until we have the guitars, but this was a nice surprise.[/QUOTE]Goddamnit I should've saved the "test vox". I think they might've sounded better than now that I'm actually recording, but oh well, I'll never know I guess. Did 5 songs today, my voice is pretty fucked. I better take a day off tomorrow, maybe get on with the solos, since they're all that's left, instrument-wise. If all goes as planned, everything should be recorded within a week.
Posted: Mar 23, 2012 10:13 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Good to hear it's all coming along Mr. Sev, I'm certainly looking forward to hearing a record from you lot!

Also I've been neglecting this place somewhat recently. Having real life responsibilities fucking sucks. Anyway as I'm sure you've gathered from Dave, we're currently just scrambling to keep up with all the commitments we've made to playing gigs, we're thoroughly behind on our timeframe of getting in to record the album due to a list of shit I won't even begin to list off..

But it's all good. God simply doesn't want this album released, for it is so good it will give Satan the upper hand and kick-start the armageddon.

... Just saying, y'know. Not to brag or anything.
Good to hear it's all coming along Mr. Sev, I'm certainly looking forward to hearing a record from you lot! Also I've been neglecting this place somewhat recently. Having real life responsibilities fucking sucks. Anyway as I'm sure you've gathered from Dave, we're currently just scrambling to keep up with all the commitments we've made to playing gigs, we're thoroughly behind on our timeframe of getting in to record the album due to a list of shit I won't even begin to list off.. But it's all good. God simply doesn't want this album released, for it is so good it will give Satan the upper hand and kick-start the armageddon. ... Just saying, y'know. Not to brag or anything.
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Sanitarium91

Damn, now that's an album! But take your time, you guys have it with your own studio and all, I assume. Saying this cause I'm constantly noticing how fast time goes by. There's so much to do, finish the recording within the next few days, there's the mixing/mastering process, applying to schools, all within about two months. I hope I can get the best out of myself. Every day just flies by, it seems there's not enough time but it's fulfilling to see progress. I thought we might never get any proper recording done, and now we're doing an album of 10 songs! I really can't complain. Damn, now that's an album! But take your time, you guys have it with your own studio and all, I assume. Saying this cause I'm constantly noticing how fast time goes by. There's so much to do, finish the recording within the next few days, there's the mixing/mastering process, applying to schools, all within about two months. I hope I can get the best out of myself. Every day just flies by, it seems there's not enough time but it's fulfilling to see progress. I thought we might never get any proper recording done, and now we're doing an album of 10 songs! I really can't complain.
Posted: Mar 25, 2012 12:13 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Seriously, we may have written the best album ever. FACT. Seriously, we may have written the best album ever. FACT.
Posted: Mar 25, 2012 4:36 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Sanitarium91 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:13pm :
Damn, now that's an album! But take your time, you guys have it with your own studio and all, I assume. Saying this cause I'm constantly noticing how fast time goes by. There's so much to do, finish the recording within the next few days, there's the mixing/mastering process, applying to schools, all within about two months. I hope I can get the best out of myself. Every day just flies by, it seems there's not enough time but it's fulfilling to see progress. I thought we might never get any proper recording done, and now we're doing an album of 10 songs! I really can't complain.

I know what you mean about time man. There really isn't enough of it, especially considering 3 out of the 4 members of Vindicator have full time jobs, as well as plenty of other responsibilities.

I feel like it was only a couple weeks ago that I said to myself, in a hungover, half-stoned haze on New Years Day 2011, that it was time to get this band really moving. We've come a very long way, but the time really flies by.

The other major problem, as ever in life, is cash. Just because all the band members have jobs doesn't mean we're not poor :p: We all have healthy drug and alcohol habits to keep up, one must remember.

But yeah, we're not rushing this. It's more complete than I expected it to be, frankly, even though it's behind our PLANNED timeframe. I view this as a kinda good thing though- It'll end up getting done from passion rather than from pressure.
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-03-24 19:13:16']Damn, now that's an album! But take your time, you guys have it with your own studio and all, I assume. Saying this cause I'm constantly noticing how fast time goes by. There's so much to do, finish the recording within the next few days, there's the mixing/mastering process, applying to schools, all within about two months. I hope I can get the best out of myself. Every day just flies by, it seems there's not enough time but it's fulfilling to see progress. I thought we might never get any proper recording done, and now we're doing an album of 10 songs! I really can't complain.[/QUOTE] I know what you mean about time man. There really isn't enough of it, especially considering 3 out of the 4 members of Vindicator have full time jobs, as well as plenty of other responsibilities. I feel like it was only a couple weeks ago that I said to myself, in a hungover, half-stoned haze on New Years Day 2011, that it was time to get this band really moving. We've come a very long way, but the time really flies by. The other major problem, as ever in life, is cash. Just because all the band members have jobs doesn't mean we're not poor :p: We all have healthy drug and alcohol habits to keep up, one must remember. But yeah, we're not rushing this. It's more complete than I expected it to be, frankly, even though it's behind our PLANNED timeframe. I view this as a kinda good thing though- It'll end up getting done from passion rather than from pressure.
Posted: Apr 4, 2012 10:36 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Aye, take your time with it, but remember to keep working at it. So often I see myself ignoring the importance of truly working on something. But as far as the recording goes, it's all done. Was about a week ago actually, but I've taken time off to distance myself from it to listen through it all with fresh ears and carefully start mixing it. Gonna be focusing on school and my playing for a while now. Aye, take your time with it, but remember to keep working at it. So often I see myself ignoring the importance of truly working on something. But as far as the recording goes, it's all done. Was about a week ago actually, but I've taken time off to distance myself from it to listen through it all with fresh ears and carefully start mixing it. Gonna be focusing on school and my playing for a while now.
Posted: Apr 5, 2012 9:05 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Watching the SnootyFox live stream, good show old chums. Shame that the audio keeps breaking. But Dave man. Man. Beastly vox. First time hearing dat shit, so wow. Watching the SnootyFox live stream, good show old chums. Shame that the audio keeps breaking. But Dave man. Man. Beastly vox. First time hearing dat shit, so wow.
Posted: Apr 15, 2012 3:59 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I'm not so fond of my vocals on the video. It was my birthday the day before and I'd been drinking heavily, so I had 'hangover throat' - any vocalist knows the effects of alcohol on the voice, and I suffered greatly from it. Cheers though mate, much apprecited!

I still sound scarily similar to the 'other' Ingram though!
I'm not so fond of my vocals on the video. It was my birthday the day before and I'd been drinking heavily, so I had 'hangover throat' - any vocalist knows the effects of alcohol on the voice, and I suffered greatly from it. Cheers though mate, much apprecited! I still sound scarily similar to the 'other' Ingram though!
Posted: Apr 15, 2012 5:51 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

I like how he gave you a fuckton of reverb, but mine was totally dry. Kinda ruined the sound a bit :/ But oh well, I'm satisfied enough with it. I like how he gave you a fuckton of reverb, but mine was totally dry. Kinda ruined the sound a bit :/ But oh well, I'm satisfied enough with it.
Posted: Apr 15, 2012 7:09 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Still amazed at how good a sound they could produce there. Good show! Still amazed at how good a sound they could produce there. Good show!
Posted: Apr 16, 2012 2:07 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

You were a great help mate, cheers for everything! Thanks for looking after our extremely drunk guitarist too hahaha You were a great help mate, cheers for everything! Thanks for looking after our extremely drunk guitarist too hahaha
Posted: Apr 16, 2012 2:38 PM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

The weird thing is, that I was probably more drunk than him at some point, haha. From when Virus went on and an hour or two ahead, I don't remember much but I remember leaving the fox and all the shenaniganz at the hotel.
Glad to help though. Let me know if you need roadies for your first european tour!
The weird thing is, that I was probably more drunk than him at some point, haha. From when Virus went on and an hour or two ahead, I don't remember much but I remember leaving the fox and all the shenaniganz at the hotel. Glad to help though. Let me know if you need roadies for your first european tour!
Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:55 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Like a boss! :D Like a boss! :D
Posted: Apr 17, 2012 3:10 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

So here I'm mixing the first out of ten tracks for the second day in a row, and its becoming painfully clear that it aint a picknick. Well, anyways, a couple of things on my mind. I looked at the waveform of one of teh Vindicator tracks, and being the newb in the world of mixing and mastering that I am, I was wondering if you reached that loudness by simply compressing it a lot or by some other studio magic. So basically like, how much compression do you use at the mixing stage and how much do you save for the mastering stage? And is there anything else behind reaching a good consistent volume other than limiting/compression?

I think I need to fuck around with the settings of the compressors more and get more heavy handed with it. Though I often end up with too much of a pumping effect with compression. But don't tell me I can't manage with the standard protools plugins?

Also, what program do you use for mastering?
So here I'm mixing the first out of ten tracks for the second day in a row, and its becoming painfully clear that it aint a picknick. Well, anyways, a couple of things on my mind. I looked at the waveform of one of teh Vindicator tracks, and being the newb in the world of mixing and mastering that I am, I was wondering if you reached that loudness by simply compressing it a lot or by some other studio magic. So basically like, how much compression do you use at the mixing stage and how much do you save for the mastering stage? And is there anything else behind reaching a good consistent volume other than limiting/compression? I think I need to fuck around with the settings of the compressors more and get more heavy handed with it. Though I often end up with too much of a pumping effect with compression. But don't tell me I can't manage with the standard protools plugins? Also, what program do you use for mastering?
Posted: Apr 23, 2012 9:48 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Ask Verm, it's been so long since I had to record and mix/master anything that I simply don't remember.

I just use Protools
Ask Verm, it's been so long since I had to record and mix/master anything that I simply don't remember. I just use Protools
Posted: Apr 24, 2012 3:09 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Sanitarium91 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2012 at 4:48pm :

I think I need to fuck around with the settings of the compressors more and get more heavy handed with it.

Automation is your friend. Just remember it's about getting the maximum volume, not compressing everything to be equal... I dunno, really I have never done a GREAT deal when mastering, I just go through the usual comp/limit arrangement after the final mix (making sure everything is set as high as it possibly can be without clipping before mixdown).

A good tip with comp is to simply get it to what you think is a good level, then push it further, then further still. When you start to notice audibly that is sounds too much, dial it back a bit.

So long as you get the initial mix at a good level, mastering is a really much less significant process than people make out. So long as you make sure you leave the dynamics of the song intact, you can't go too far wrong.
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-04-23 16:48:30'] I think I need to fuck around with the settings of the compressors more and get more heavy handed with it. [/QUOTE] Automation is your friend. Just remember it's about getting the maximum volume, not compressing everything to be equal... I dunno, really I have never done a GREAT deal when mastering, I just go through the usual comp/limit arrangement after the final mix (making sure everything is set as high as it possibly can be without clipping before mixdown). A good tip with comp is to simply get it to what you think is a good level, then push it further, then further still. When you start to notice audibly that is sounds too much, dial it back a bit. So long as you get the initial mix at a good level, mastering is a really much less significant process than people make out. So long as you make sure you leave the dynamics of the song intact, you can't go too far wrong.
Posted: May 3, 2012 11:22 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Thanks man, I can't believe I've been unaware of automation all this time. For some reason I was also under the impression that it'll be a lot louder after the mastering stage, but I guess not. I've kept things at a pretty low volume to avoid clipping, and among other things I've tried normalizing the bounced track but that only gives me a couple db volume which doesn't make much of a difference.

Speaking of normalizing, do you ever use it for anything at the mixing stage, or at any stage for that matter?
Thanks man, I can't believe I've been unaware of automation all this time. For some reason I was also under the impression that it'll be a lot louder after the mastering stage, but I guess not. I've kept things at a pretty low volume to avoid clipping, and among other things I've tried normalizing the bounced track but that only gives me a couple db volume which doesn't make much of a difference. Speaking of normalizing, do you ever use it for anything at the mixing stage, or at any stage for that matter?
Posted: May 4, 2012 3:24 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Usually doesn't hurt to do it before you put it to disc. All normalising does is bring your peak dB up to the maximum, so on a well mastered track it doesn't do anything, essentially.

It also helps to have a decent maximiser pluging, preferably a fancy multi-band one. Basically you get the most you can out of each frequency range, though on a lot of them even the pre-sets will give you impressive results if you don't feel up to experimenting.
Usually doesn't hurt to do it before you put it to disc. All normali[b]s[/b]ing does is bring your peak dB up to the maximum, so on a well mastered track it doesn't do anything, essentially.

It also helps to have a decent maximiser pluging, preferably a fancy multi-band one. Basically you get the most you can out of each frequency range, though on a lot of them even the pre-sets will give you impressive results if you don't feel up to experimenting.
Posted: May 4, 2012 4:49 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Speaking of recording Mr. Vermintide, give me my computer. Speaking of recording Mr. Vermintide, give me my computer.
Posted: May 5, 2012 12:00 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Vermintide wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 11:49am :
It also helps to have a decent maximiser pluging, preferably a fancy multi-band one. Basically you get the most you can out of each frequency range, though on a lot of them even the pre-sets will give you impressive results if you don't feel up to experimenting.
And this is for... mastering?

I don't have too much time to mix the album, but I guess I could spend all the time I can on the mixing and do the mastering later after school's, over on my computer... if I could acquire a decent program for it, cause I think I wanna use something a bit more fancy and versatile than Audacity.
[QUOTE u='Vermintide' d='2012-05-04 11:49:46']It also helps to have a decent maximiser pluging, preferably a fancy multi-band one. Basically you get the most you can out of each frequency range, though on a lot of them even the pre-sets will give you impressive results if you don't feel up to experimenting.
[/QUOTE]And this is for... mastering? I don't have too much time to mix the album, but I guess I could spend all the time I can on the mixing and do the mastering later after school's, over on my computer... if I could acquire a decent program for it, cause I think I wanna use something a bit more fancy and versatile than Audacity.
Posted: May 6, 2012 4:57 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

A lot of people harp on about Reaper. It has to be better than Audacity - almost anything is. A lot of people harp on about Reaper. It has to be better than Audacity - almost anything is.
Posted: May 7, 2012 2:54 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Sanitarium91 wrote on May 6th, 2012 at 11:57am :
Vermintide wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 11:49am :
It also helps to have a decent maximiser pluging, preferably a fancy multi-band one. Basically you get the most you can out of each frequency range, though on a lot of them even the pre-sets will give you impressive results if you don't feel up to experimenting.
And this is for... mastering?

I don't have too much time to mix the album, but I guess I could spend all the time I can on the mixing and do the mastering later after school's, over on my computer... if I could acquire a decent program for it, cause I think I wanna use something a bit more fancy and versatile than Audacity.

In my experience I have probably not even spent a tenth of the time mastering that I have spent mixing.

There's no point having excellent mastering on a shitty mix. That's just putting a golden frame around a picture of a turd.
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-05-06 11:57:31'][QUOTE u='Vermintide' d='2012-05-04 11:49:46']It also helps to have a decent maximiser pluging, preferably a fancy multi-band one. Basically you get the most you can out of each frequency range, though on a lot of them even the pre-sets will give you impressive results if you don't feel up to experimenting.
[/QUOTE]And this is for... mastering? I don't have too much time to mix the album, but I guess I could spend all the time I can on the mixing and do the mastering later after school's, over on my computer... if I could acquire a decent program for it, cause I think I wanna use something a bit more fancy and versatile than Audacity.[/QUOTE] In my experience I have probably not even spent a tenth of the time mastering that I have spent mixing. There's no point having excellent mastering on a shitty mix. That's just putting a golden frame around a picture of a turd.
Posted: May 8, 2012 8:42 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

:haha:

Well put. Considering how the mixing is going, I guess I realize now that I ain't saving it with mastering haha.
:haha: 

Well put. Considering how the mixing is going, I guess I realize now that I ain't saving it with mastering haha.
Posted: May 8, 2012 10:41 PM - Quote - Report!

BlackThrash

I'm coming up in my final days in my band, Urban Warfare, due to personal, professional, and musical differences. I already have a line up for a new project which is more Black Metal and Crust oriented but still keeping a big Thrash Element in our music. The band is called Doomkryer (theres a chance there will be a name change) and so far its a Trio. We already have some originals. I've been wanting to form this band for quite a while now and had recorded some songs all by myself before I found the people to play it. Check it out if you want at : Doomkryer.bandcamp.com

This time around I'm not making the same mistake I did in my last band, This time around I got people who are very dedicated, and has the same mindset to make this happen...


WARNING: some of the songs I mix while I was Piss Drunk
I'm coming up in my final days in my band, Urban Warfare, due to personal, professional, and musical differences. I already have a line up for a new project which is more Black Metal and Crust oriented but still keeping a big Thrash Element in our music. The band is called Doomkryer (theres a chance there will be a name change) and so far its a Trio. We already have some originals. I've been wanting to form this band for quite a while now and had recorded some songs all by myself before I found the people to play it. Check it out if you want at : Doomkryer.bandcamp.com

This time around I'm not making the same mistake I did in my last band, This time around I got people who are very dedicated, and has the same mindset to make this happen...


WARNING: some of the songs I mix while I was Piss Drunk
Posted: May 15, 2012 11:25 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Excuses excuses. Excuses excuses.
Posted: May 19, 2012 9:57 AM - Quote - Report!

BlackThrash

eh, What you gonna do? eh, What you gonna do?
Posted: May 20, 2012 9:40 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Sit here and mock you over the internet, because that's what real tough guys do. Sit here and mock you over the internet, because that's what real tough guys do.
Posted: May 20, 2012 8:07 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Even with people who are dedicated shit can still fall apart.

More than that you know what's great? When 1,200 worth of supposedly professional grade recording hardware fucking dies on you.

... Dave, you have a copy of ProTools right? We tried re-installing but our disc now seems to be fucked and it doesn't wanna install.

You know, because the entire goddamn fucking world is against us.
Even with people who are dedicated shit can still fall apart. More than that you know what's great? When 1,200 worth of supposedly professional grade recording hardware fucking dies on you. ... Dave, you have a copy of ProTools right? We tried re-installing but our disc now seems to be fucked and it doesn't wanna install. You know, because the entire goddamn fucking world is against us.
Posted: Jun 7, 2012 10:01 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

That's terrible man... Was Murphy's Law enacted in your studio recently? That's terrible man... Was Murphy's Law enacted in your studio recently?
Posted: Jun 7, 2012 10:47 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Ha, it's been in force from the very start, believe me. Ha, it's been in force from the very start, believe me.
Posted: Jun 7, 2012 12:12 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Yeah, I have ProTools 9HD. Why? Yeah, I have ProTools 9HD. Why?
Posted: Jun 7, 2012 1:29 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

May we borrow it? We just need to re-install ProTools to see if it's the drivers for the 003 that's fucking it up, or if it's to do with the Windows installation, or if it's just simply fucked.

We tried it using my M-Box and everything was fine. Sadly you can't very well record a drum kit with two fucking mics.
May we borrow it? We just need to re-install ProTools to see if it's the drivers for the 003 that's fucking it up, or if it's to do with the Windows installation, or if it's just simply fucked. We tried it using my M-Box and everything was fine. Sadly you can't very well record a drum kit with two fucking mics.
Posted: Jun 7, 2012 1:39 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

You can. It just sounds shit. You can. It just sounds shit.
Posted: Jun 8, 2012 7:57 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Haha, yeah, you'd need pretty magical mics if you wanted to get good results with two. We recorded ours with only four mics. You can get pretty killer results with four, but we would really have had to experiment more with the mic placement to get the best possible results. Well, you'll be hearing fairly shortly what it ended up sounding like, I'm mixing as we speak.

Considering the standard for metal production and my mixing/recording experience, it's not gonna be as clean, slick and loud as people expect these days, but as long as you have the ability to focus on the music, I'm sure some of you might like it. :)

Also, the studio I'm at right now has a digidesign 002 and a PowerMac with ProTools LE 7.4 which have performed quite nicely so far I must say. I can have quite a lot of tracks and plugins before it starts breaking up. I'm just on borrowed time with the mixing cause school's over and I need to return the studio key pretty soon.
Haha, yeah, you'd need pretty magical mics if you wanted to get good results with two. We recorded ours with only four mics. You can get pretty killer results with four, but we would really have had to experiment more with the mic placement to get the best possible results. Well, you'll be hearing fairly shortly what it ended up sounding like, I'm mixing as we speak. 

Considering the standard for metal production and my mixing/recording experience, it's not gonna be as clean, slick and loud as people expect these days, but as long as you have the ability to focus on the music, I'm sure some of you might like it. :) 

Also, the studio I'm at right now has a digidesign 002 and a PowerMac with ProTools LE 7.4 which have performed quite nicely so far I must say. I can have quite a lot of tracks and plugins before it starts breaking up. I'm just on borrowed time with the mixing cause school's over and I need to return the studio key pretty soon.
Posted: Jun 8, 2012 12:18 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Update:

Tried installing ProTools 9. It appeared to work.

Only now, the fucking thing bluescreens every single time we try to run it.

Next idea: Re-install windows.
Update: Tried installing ProTools 9. It appeared to work. Only now, the fucking thing bluescreens every single time we try to run it. Next idea: Re-install windows.
Posted: Jun 13, 2012 1:44 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Semi-decent results on mixing/mastering, a couple of visits to the studio and the album is hopefully done. Tried making cover art and shit for it yesterday with spray paint, which didn't go too well. On my second painting spilled a few drops into my eye. Was quite a scare haha.

On another note, been slowly getting back to the idea of writing music. Some alien sounding stuff coming together. There's plenty material for another one already, but would be cool to work on new stuff with the guys and see what comes of that instead of finishing all the writing by myself.
Semi-decent results on mixing/mastering, a couple of visits to the studio and the album is hopefully done. Tried making cover art and shit for it yesterday with spray paint, which didn't go too well. On my second painting spilled a few drops into my eye. Was quite a scare haha. On another note, been slowly getting back to the idea of writing music. Some alien sounding stuff coming together. There's plenty material for another one already, but would be cool to work on new stuff with the guys and see what comes of that instead of finishing all the writing by myself.
Posted: Jun 17, 2012 10:49 PM - Quote - Report!

_harris

don't use protools 9 if it makes your comp crash,... why not try Sonar, or just protools 8 :P don't use protools 9 if it makes your comp crash,... why not try Sonar, or just protools 8 :P
Posted: Jun 25, 2012 12:42 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

_harris wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 7:42pm :
don't use protools 9 if it makes your comp crash,... why not try Sonar, or just protools 8 :P


Protools 8 IS what we were using. I think it's the computer itself that's fucked.

Dave had ProTools 9 which he lent us and it's still fucked.
[QUOTE u='_harris' d='2012-06-24 19:42:08']don't use protools 9 if it makes your comp crash,... why not try Sonar, or just protools 8 :P[/QUOTE] Protools 8 IS what we were using. I think it's the computer itself that's fucked. Dave had ProTools 9 which he lent us and it's still fucked.
Posted: Jun 27, 2012 7:55 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

What do yall think about album lengths? Our albums lookin' pretty fucking lengthy. It's almost an hour, so it would probably benefit the album to drop off a few. I don't think we're going to drop out any though, but it's probably worth thinking about cause I know it can be fatiguing to listen to an hour of badly produced crap. What do yall think about album lengths? Our albums lookin' pretty fucking lengthy. It's almost an hour, so it would probably benefit the album to drop off a few. I don't think we're going to drop out any though, but it's probably worth thinking about cause I know it can be fatiguing to listen to an hour of badly produced crap.
Posted: Jul 5, 2012 7:19 PM - Quote - Report!

pritu786

http://gfacebook.in/tag/moviestarplanet-vip-genera tor/ http://gfacebook.in/tag/moviestarplanet-vip-generator/
Posted: Jul 9, 2012 5:57 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Eh?


Feedback is welcome.
Eh? 

Also: http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/Sanitarium91/music/play1124528

Feedback is welcome.
Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:58 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Alright, criticism first: I don't like the intro/verse riff, at all It doesn't really seem to go anywhere. But I guess that's an issue of taste rather than musical merit.

The good stuff: Your vocals are sounding bloody savage. Really. Keep that up lad. Love the harmony as it transitions into the soft part, too. Very serene, I really envy your ability to write nice clean stuff :haha: And naturally a great solo section.

Actually overall this reminds me a lot of Opeth, the middle and solo in particular. Can't wait to hear more man.
Alright, criticism first: I don't like the intro/verse riff, at all It doesn't really seem to go anywhere. But I guess that's an issue of taste rather than musical merit.

The good stuff: Your vocals are sounding bloody savage. Really. Keep that up lad. Love the harmony as it transitions into the soft part, too. Very serene, I really envy your ability to write nice clean stuff :haha: And naturally a great solo section.

Actually overall this reminds me a lot of Opeth, the middle and solo in particular. Can't wait to hear more man.
Posted: Jul 28, 2012 1:26 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Yeah, the intro riff is really simple and straightforward. I think the point of it is to really set the theme of the song more than anything else. The pre chorus/chorus are pretty much variations on that theme.

I can't really say much about the Opeth reference as I'm not familiar enough with their material to tell a similarity. I think they're best known as a band with lots of clean stuff so I guess it's kind of expected to remind someone of them. Our bass player said the same thing about a new song (instrumental) and while I could see a part that reminds me a bit of them, the stuff has a whole different mood to me. But it's such a subjective experience that how I feel is probably entirely different to how others do hhaha.

Cheers for checking it out man, and thanks for the compliments. :cheers:
Yeah, the intro riff is really simple and straightforward. I think the point of it is to really set the theme of the song more than anything else. The pre chorus/chorus are pretty much variations on that theme. 

I can't really say much about the Opeth reference as I'm not familiar enough with their material to tell a similarity. I think they're best known as a band with lots of clean stuff so I guess it's kind of expected to remind someone of them. Our bass player said the same thing about a new song (instrumental) and while I could see a part that reminds me a bit of them, the stuff has a whole different mood to me. But it's such a subjective experience that how I feel is probably entirely different to how others do hhaha. 

Cheers for checking it out man, and thanks for the compliments. :cheers:
Posted: Jul 28, 2012 12:32 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

No worries laddie.

Still plugging away at the Vindicator stuff over here, we got a gig coming up with a few of the big local names, including Acral Necrosis, who we've been trying to get on a bill with for ages.

As for the album things are as murky as ever. So much shit has gone down recently, what with cancelling our tenancy for the studio, my turbulent employment status, Dave's turbulent living arrangements, and Chris' turbulent fatherhood, it really does just seem like there are forces working against us.

I'm starting to think we should just fuck the whole thing off, and I'll do it single-handedly from my bedroom again.

The worst thing is I'm starting to sound like Dave did about the fucking Bloodbrawl stuff that never materialised. I knew bringing him onboard was a bad idea.
No worries laddie.

Still plugging away at the Vindicator stuff over here, we got a gig coming up with a few of the big local names, including Acral Necrosis, who we've been trying to get on a bill with for ages.

As for the album things are as murky as ever. So much shit has gone down recently, what with cancelling our tenancy for the studio, my turbulent employment status, Dave's turbulent living arrangements, and Chris' turbulent fatherhood, it really does just seem like there are forces working against us.

I'm starting to think we should just fuck the whole thing off, and I'll do it single-handedly from my bedroom again.

The worst thing is I'm starting to sound like Dave did about the fucking Bloodbrawl stuff that never materialised. I knew bringing him onboard was a bad idea.
Posted: Aug 3, 2012 10:51 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Bitch, don't blame it on me. Bitch, don't blame it on me.
Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:01 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Chris is a father now? Damn... This whole Vindicator business is like a docusoap or something.

Coming soon on BBC2: The Vindicators.
Chris is a father now? Damn... This whole Vindicator business is like a docusoap or something. Coming soon on BBC2: The Vindicators.
Posted: Aug 15, 2012 8:43 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

It's funny because it's true. It's funny because it's true.
Posted: Aug 17, 2012 5:57 PM - Quote - Report!

Situacao

Sev, that was actually quite good imo! Really liked the break before the intro solo. The whole main riff reminded me a bit of Coroner actually. The soft part was great too, sounding like something Masvidal would've done. Good stuff here mate! Sev, that was actually quite good imo! Really liked the break before the intro solo. The whole main riff reminded me a bit of Coroner actually. The soft part was great too, sounding like something Masvidal would've done. Good stuff here mate!
Posted: Aug 18, 2012 12:19 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Thanks man.

We're putting finishing touches on it atm. Mixing has been done for a while, cause had to give away the studio keys. Basically we just need to incorporate a logo to the cover-art, but unfortunately I don't have a program or the skills to do it. Will maybe need to get someone to do it for us.
Thanks man. We're putting finishing touches on it atm. Mixing has been done for a while, cause had to give away the studio keys. Basically we just need to incorporate a logo to the cover-art, but unfortunately I don't have a program or the skills to do it. Will maybe need to get someone to do it for us.
Posted: Aug 19, 2012 10:51 AM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Hey guiz, check it out:

http://youtu.be/Gio9HM_onbM
Hey guiz, check it out:

http://youtu.be/Gio9HM_onbM
Posted: Sep 2, 2012 6:53 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Good footage fellas. Always wanted to hear that Zombie Ritual cover and you didn't dissapoint! It fits Vindicator really nicely, not just cause it's about Zombies either. :p: Good footage fellas. Always wanted to hear that Zombie Ritual cover and you didn't dissapoint! It fits Vindicator really nicely, not just cause it's about Zombies either. :p:
Posted: Sep 3, 2012 3:28 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

The album's up for grabs now fellas. http://www.mediafire.com/?dkgbybrc20311v0

The album's up for grabs now fellas. http://www.mediafire.com/?dkgbybrc20311v0 

And here as well: http://exocosm.bandcamp.com/
Posted: Sep 6, 2012 4:32 PM - Quote - Report!

Situacao

Good god Verm, wtf is up with that crowd? "Let's all just nod our heads in as a sign of acceptance."

Cheers Sev, will get it when I reach home!
Good god Verm, wtf is up with that crowd? "Let's all just nod our heads in as a sign of acceptance." Cheers Sev, will get it when I reach home!
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 11:56 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Aye, that was actually one of our worst shows by far. Shit crowd, no fans. Shit stage, no band. Aye, that was actually one of our worst shows by far. Shit crowd, no fans. Shit stage, no band.
Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:06 PM - Quote - Report!

Vermintide

Situacao wrote on Sep 18th, 2012 at 6:56am :
Good god Verm, wtf is up with that crowd? "Let's all just nod our heads in as a sign of acceptance."

When we play on a good line-up with a crowd of thrash maniacs we tend to go down much better, but at that particular show we were in front of a doom metal band and an all-female melodeath band. The people there didn't know what to make of us.

The problem is people can't quite tell whether we are serious, or some kind of Spinal Tap-esque parody band.

In other news though, guess who's supporting Destroyer 666 in December? :D
[QUOTE u='Situacao' d='2012-09-18 06:56:11']Good god Verm, wtf is up with that crowd? "Let's all just nod our heads in as a sign of acceptance." [/QUOTE] When we play on a good line-up with a crowd of thrash maniacs we tend to go down much better, but at that particular show we were in front of a doom metal band and an all-female melodeath band. The people there didn't know what to make of us. The problem is people can't quite tell whether we are serious, or some kind of Spinal Tap-esque parody band. In other news though, guess who's supporting Destroyer 666 in December? :D
Posted: Oct 16, 2012 4:17 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Serious?! Nice job, that's some name to be supporting! Be sure to put on a tight show mates! Serious?! Nice job, that's some name to be supporting! Be sure to put on a tight show mates!
Posted: Oct 16, 2012 8:07 PM - Quote - Report!

6-String_Madman

...just want to share this:

I have this band called Rabid Stream where I am one of the newly added members (Guitar and Vocals). The band has been existent for around 9 years or less playing Big 4 Thrash Metal (Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax) covers.

They've made a few originals (before I arrived) that has not been completed because the former vocalist had creative differences with the rest of the group and our former lead guitarist left and took almost all of the bands riffs (yes, we let him do that). Those circumstances gave me the responsibility to be the band's main songwriter.

Everything's going well somehow but we could not get the pace fast in materializing concepts since we have our own things going on in our lives (mainly, the 9 hour/5 day work sched and other stuff) but once all 4 of us are inside the studio for 2-3 hours, we are on full focus.

As of now, we've already made 4 songs. 2 songs that we can confidently play in shows and the other 2 that still needs some final touches. All of them are mainly Metallica inspired songwriting but I make sure that I incorporate other Thrash sounds and styles. Thanks to the other thread that made me discover a lot of awesome albums and most of them I haven't heard of.
...just want to share this: I have this band called Rabid Stream where I am one of the newly added members (Guitar and Vocals). The band has been existent for around 9 years or less playing Big 4 Thrash Metal (Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax) covers. They've made a few originals (before I arrived) that has not been completed because the former vocalist had creative differences with the rest of the group and our former lead guitarist left and took almost all of the bands riffs (yes, we let him do that). Those circumstances gave me the responsibility to be the band's main songwriter. Everything's going well somehow but we could not get the pace fast in materializing concepts since we have our own things going on in our lives (mainly, the 9 hour/5 day work sched and other stuff) but once all 4 of us are inside the studio for 2-3 hours, we are on full focus. As of now, we've already made 4 songs. 2 songs that we can confidently play in shows and the other 2 that still needs some final touches. All of them are mainly Metallica inspired songwriting but I make sure that I incorporate other Thrash sounds and styles. Thanks to the other thread that made me discover a lot of awesome albums and most of them I haven't heard of.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 11:47 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Might i make a suggestion? Not to sound dickheaded, but what're you hoping to achieve with your band? There're so many Big 4 soundalikes that there's literally zero point in doing such stuff anymore, unless it's solely for fun. Might i make a suggestion? Not to sound dickheaded, but what're you hoping to achieve with your band? There're so many Big 4 soundalikes that there's literally zero point in doing such stuff anymore, unless it's solely for fun.
Posted: Oct 26, 2012 3:33 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Posty, I was gonna say something along the lines of that (thought you're being unusually nice about it this time round btw, grown up a little perhaps? :p: ) but then I thought that Metallica imitators have a higher chance of gaining fans simply because there are so many people that like to hear that stuff.

Of course if the alternative is genuinely good and original thrash that is so high quality that it speaks for itself, you should do that. But that's unlikely, I've only seen one Vektor so far.

However, I can't help but share Posty's sentiments. But you gotta do what you love to do, nothing else matterz. I'm sorry you guys, that was horrible.
Posty, I was gonna say something along the lines of that (thought you're being unusually nice about it this time round btw, grown up a little perhaps? :p: ) but then I thought that Metallica imitators have a higher chance of gaining fans simply because there are so many people that like to hear that stuff. Of course if the alternative is genuinely good and original thrash that is so high quality that it speaks for itself, you should do that. But that's unlikely, I've only seen one Vektor so far. However, I can't help but share Posty's sentiments. But you gotta do what you love to do, nothing else matterz. I'm sorry you guys, that was horrible.
Posted: Oct 26, 2012 4:51 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Dammit finfag...

But seriously. The number of big four imitators is utterly fucking staggering, and simply put, there're next to no truely good ones. Verm and I were on about such a thing recently - too many new bands want to be exactly like their favourite bands instead of being merely influenced by them. You know what a copy is? Inferior to the original. Hence why these bands who're copying Gama Bomb and Municipal waste sound forced, generic and thoroughly shitty.

I hear so many of these naff knockoffs say 'Oh we're just playing the music we want to hear'. That's absolutely fine, but if you really enjoy hearing the big four etc. that much then might I recommend a cover band? Or better yet, stay at home and listen to their albums whilst playing along. The world doesn't need another band like Metallica, Slayer, megadeth, Anthrax, Exodus, Testament, Municipal Waste, D.R.I etc. ever again.

Now if you were to 'copy' a thrash band along the lines of say, Coroner or Demolition Hammer then you'd fare slightly better - you'd be doing something at least different, despite being regurgitated. The point is that if you copy x or y band, there're already 10,000 clones of that band and a further 10,000 bands have just had the exact same idea as you at the exact same time. With all of these clones knocking around, as well as the original band, who's going to stand out from the crowd? Nobody, because they all sound the same (usually 'the same' means 'fucking rubbish') and all they're doing is clogging up the system so to speak.

Again, if you're just wanting to do it for a laugh and not really take it seriously/go anywhere with it, then that's absolutely fine. But if you intend to make a 'career' out of it (for lack of a better phrase) then you should seriously reconsider your choice of style. I've seen many bands get incredibley frustrated as to why they're not going anywhere with their music, totally ignorant to the fact that they just sound generic as shit. Again, not trying to be dickish, but it's the truth.

.... Yeah, I'm sounding a little too soft and polite. Consider a 'fuck you, your band is shit' tagged on the end of this, I have to keep up appearances :haha:
Dammit finfag... But seriously. The number of big four imitators is utterly fucking staggering, and simply put, there're next to no truely good ones. Verm and I were on about such a thing recently - too many new bands want to be exactly like their favourite bands instead of being merely influenced by them. You know what a copy is? Inferior to the original. Hence why these bands who're copying Gama Bomb and Municipal waste sound forced, generic and thoroughly shitty. I hear so many of these naff knockoffs say 'Oh we're just playing the music we want to hear'. That's absolutely fine, but if you really enjoy hearing the big four etc. that much then might I recommend a cover band? Or better yet, stay at home and listen to their albums whilst playing along. The world doesn't need another band like Metallica, Slayer, megadeth, Anthrax, Exodus, Testament, Municipal Waste, D.R.I etc. ever again. Now if you were to 'copy' a thrash band along the lines of say, Coroner or Demolition Hammer then you'd fare slightly better - you'd be doing something at least different, despite being regurgitated. The point is that if you copy x or y band, there're already 10,000 clones of that band and a further 10,000 bands have just had the exact same idea as you at the exact same time. With all of these clones knocking around, as well as the original band, who's going to stand out from the crowd? Nobody, because they all sound the same (usually 'the same' means 'fucking rubbish') and all they're doing is clogging up the system so to speak. Again, if you're just wanting to do it for a laugh and not really take it seriously/go anywhere with it, then that's absolutely fine. But if you intend to make a 'career' out of it (for lack of a better phrase) then you should seriously reconsider your choice of style. I've seen many bands get incredibley frustrated as to why they're not going anywhere with their music, totally ignorant to the fact that they just sound generic as shit. Again, not trying to be dickish, but it's the truth. .... Yeah, I'm sounding a little too soft and polite. Consider a 'fuck you, your band is shit' tagged on the end of this, I have to keep up appearances :haha:
Posted: Oct 27, 2012 2:57 AM - Quote - Report!

6-String_Madman

postmortem2006, Understood your sentiment toward the "Big 4" thing and thanks for being nice and polite even I really thought that you really mean to say, "fuck you, your band is shit". That's why I went to this group to venture more into Thrash Metal and to incorporate more ideas from the vast list of bands on your recommended list.

We had Big 4 bands to be our base influences because they we're the bands we grew up with as kids. And of course, I'm not that narrow minded to close out my playlist on those four bands alone. Some songs I wrote have Overkill and Death Angel influences. My vocal style is not guttural to be honest. I carry vocal influences from both Hetfield and Araya (depending on the songs I write).

Sanitarium91, I agree with the last paragraph. And maybe that is what I'm trying to achieve in what I do musically. I'm not planning to make a career out of it since I have an 8-5 job. I just want to express myself in a certain way that I like. Especially when living in this f**ed up society where almost everything seems to be insane.
postmortem2006, Understood your sentiment toward the "Big 4" thing and thanks for being nice and polite even I really thought that you really mean to say, "fuck you, your band is shit". That's why I went to this group to venture more into Thrash Metal and to incorporate more ideas from the vast list of bands on your recommended list.

We had Big 4 bands to be our base influences because they we're the bands we grew up with as kids. And of course, I'm not that narrow minded to close out my playlist on those four bands alone. Some songs I wrote have Overkill and Death Angel influences. My vocal style is not guttural to be honest. I carry vocal influences from both Hetfield and Araya (depending on the songs I write).

Sanitarium91, I agree with the last paragraph. And maybe that is what I'm trying to achieve in what I do musically. I'm not planning to make a career out of it since I have an 8-5 job. I just want to express myself in a certain way that I like. Especially when living in this f**ed up society where almost everything seems to be insane.
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 1:47 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Again, if you're just doing it for fun or to vent, then I see fewer problems with it. Go hog wild. Again, if you're just doing it for fun or to vent, then I see fewer problems with it. Go hog wild.
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:18 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

According to Theodor Adorno, creating music in your spare time is pointless because there are so many others who are qualified to do it better, thus making your music superfluous.

That's why I don't write music.
According to Theodor Adorno, creating music in your spare time is pointless because there are so many others who are qualified to do it better, thus making your music superfluous. That's why I don't write music.
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 7:13 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Maybe you need to look at music less as a contest, more as an activity, then. Like, doing it cause it's fun, doing it to express yourself. I suppose there are people who call that pointless, but those people would probably call music pointless as well. Maybe you need to look at music less as a contest, more as an activity, then. Like, doing it cause it's fun, doing it to express yourself. I suppose there are people who call that pointless, but those people would probably call music pointless as well.
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:31 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Everything's pointless. Everything's pointless.
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 9:13 PM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Let's not get too philosophical, shall we? Let's not get too philosophical, shall we?
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:57 PM - Quote - Report!

6-String_Madman

postmortem2006 wrote on Oct 29th, 2012 at 5:18am :
Again, if you're just doing it for fun or to vent, then I see fewer problems with it. Go hog wild.



Sanitarium91 wrote on Oct 29th, 2012 at 3:31pm :
Maybe you need to look at music less as a contest, more as an activity, then. Like, doing it cause it's fun, doing it to express yourself. I suppose there are people who call that pointless, but those people would probably call music pointless as well.


Cheers to both of you!
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2012-10-29 05:18:38']Again, if you're just doing it for fun or to vent, then I see fewer problems with it. Go hog wild.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-10-29 15:31:52']Maybe you need to look at music less as a contest, more as an activity, then. Like, doing it cause it's fun, doing it to express yourself. I suppose there are people who call that pointless, but those people would probably call music pointless as well.[/QUOTE] Cheers to both of you!
Posted: Oct 30, 2012 1:33 AM - Quote - Report!

Senor Kristian

Sanitarium91 wrote on Oct 29th, 2012 at 3:31pm :
Maybe you need to look at music less as a contest, more as an activity, then. Like, doing it cause it's fun, doing it to express yourself. I suppose there are people who call that pointless, but those people would probably call music pointless as well.

I was just joking around. I'm always having excuses for not creating music though. Wasn't expecing to find one in my curriculum.
[QUOTE u='Sanitarium91' d='2012-10-29 15:31:52']Maybe you need to look at music less as a contest, more as an activity, then. Like, doing it cause it's fun, doing it to express yourself. I suppose there are people who call that pointless, but those people would probably call music pointless as well.[/QUOTE] I was just joking around. I'm always having excuses for not creating music though. Wasn't expecing to find one in my curriculum.
Posted: Oct 30, 2012 9:49 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Kristian is however going to be starring in a music video when I do my cover of Die Stumme Ursel. Kristian is however going to be starring in a music video when I do my cover of Die Stumme Ursel.
Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:46 AM - Quote - Report!

Sanitarium91

Senor Kristian wrote on Oct 30th, 2012 at 4:49am :
I was just joking around. I'm always having excuses for not creating music though. Wasn't expecing to find one in my curriculum.

Don't get me wrong, I can see sense in that excuse for sure. I sort of feel similar at times myself. Getting deeper into jazz and the world of musicianship has just made me feel like such a turd of a player and musician. Of course, I'm by no means a "musician", I don't nearly have the skills or merits to call myself that. But in the end, that's mostly me losing focus on why I play music.
[QUOTE u='Senor Kristian' d='2012-10-30 04:49:58']I was just joking around. I'm always having excuses for not creating music though. Wasn't expecing to find one in my curriculum.[/QUOTE] Don't get me wrong, I can see sense in that excuse for sure. I sort of feel similar at times myself. Getting deeper into jazz and the world of musicianship has just made me feel like such a turd of a player and musician. Of course, I'm by no means a "musician", I don't nearly have the skills or merits to call myself that. But in the end, that's mostly me losing focus on why I play music.
Posted: Oct 30, 2012 9:33 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

I play it because it's coool and I'm gonna be a famous rockstar millionaire and bigger than Metallica. I play it because it's coool and I'm gonna be a famous rockstar millionaire and bigger than Metallica.
Posted: Nov 1, 2012 4:21 PM - Quote - Report!

6-String_Madman

postmortem2006 wrote on Nov 1st, 2012 at 11:21am :
I play it because it's coool and I'm gonna be a famous rockstar millionaire and bigger than Metallica.


It's Electric - Diamond Head
[QUOTE u='postmortem2006' d='2012-11-01 11:21:24']I play it because it's coool and I'm gonna be a famous rockstar millionaire and bigger than Metallica.[/QUOTE] It's Electric - Diamond Head
Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:35 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

UPDATE! Destroyer 666 was amazing and we actually went down extremely fucking well. In fact, I'd go so far to say that despite typical Vindicator luck with sound and set cuts, that was our best ever show. UPDATE! Destroyer 666 was amazing and we actually went down extremely fucking well. In fact, I'd go so far to say that despite typical Vindicator luck with sound and set cuts, that was our best ever show.
Posted: Dec 16, 2012 8:28 AM - Quote - Report!

BlackThrash

Man its been a real long time since I last posted here.
Since the last time I came here, I started a new band called Reapermanser, and its actually most stable band I've been in. We've played a handful of shows now, mainly to a crust punk oriented crowd, but we still like to call ourselves a Blackened Thrash Metal band. We don't have anything recorded but we have a vid of my band playing on youtube and what not.
Man its been a real long time since I last posted here. Since the last time I came here, I started a new band called [b]Reapermanser[/b], and its actually most stable band I've been in. We've played a handful of shows now, mainly to a crust punk oriented crowd, but we still like to call ourselves a Blackened Thrash Metal band. We don't have anything recorded but we have a vid of my band playing on youtube and what not.
Posted: Feb 8, 2013 5:28 AM - Quote - Report!

Thrashasaurus

I'm currently playing in Halmos. Stoner/sludge stuff. halmosband.bandcamp.com I'm currently playing in Halmos. Stoner/sludge stuff. halmosband.bandcamp.com
Posted: Feb 8, 2013 6:41 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

The Ingram approves The Ingram approves
Posted: Feb 15, 2013 8:22 PM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

Guess what? STILL WAITING FOR A SHIRT! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH Guess what? STILL WAITING FOR A SHIRT! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Posted: Apr 26, 2013 6:18 AM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Hassle Verm Hassle Verm
Posted: May 25, 2013 3:00 AM - Quote - Report!

Abomination94

http://artists.ultimate-guitar.com/pandemonic/

If anyone still checks this group any more, check this out and tell me what you think.
http://artists.ultimate-guitar.com/pandemonic/ If anyone still checks this group any more, check this out and tell me what you think.
Posted: Jan 7, 2014 10:36 PM - Quote - Report!

postmortem2006

Fucking hell, necrobump or what.

I still hate New Zealand
Fucking hell, necrobump or what. I still hate New Zealand
Posted: Feb 6, 2014 4:52 PM - Quote - Report!

6-String_Madman

www.reverbnation.com/artist_1752950/bio
Check this out and feel free to comment... Old school heavy metal...
www.reverbnation.com/artist_1752950/bio
Check this out and feel free to comment... Old school heavy metal...
Posted: Feb 6, 2014 11:30 PM - Quote - Report!
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